 Italian inmates seek death penalty |
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| Italian inmates seek death penalty |
 May 31 2007, 08:25 AM
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Don't mean to open up a can of worms, but I thought this was interesting.. I'd never thought I'd hear prisoners wanting a death penalty, seems like it's borderline euthanasia.
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May 31 2007, 11:35 AM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
Who cares what prisoners want?
And that maximum sentence of 30 years they have in the works is a bad idea. Kill someone at 20. Turn around, kill them again at 50. And you can even get one more in at 80 
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May 31 2007, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (Inferia @ May 31 2007, 09:25 AM)  Don't mean to open up a can of worms, but I thought this was interesting.. I'd never thought I'd hear prisoners wanting a death penalty, seems like it's borderline euthanasia. article Why would you want life in prison rather than the death penalty? |
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May 31 2007, 12:21 PM
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maybe just me... but some people enjoy breathing. especially those who don't feel there's anything after death for them. hell, with the prisons here, a life sentence is better than lots of people's everyday lives. friggin cable TV, weight rooms, people get college degrees while in prison, etc etc.
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May 31 2007, 12:45 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
the stabbings, the never being able to go outside, your friends and family losing touch with you, every order screamed at you from a guy in a uniform who gets to go home every night. prisons easy
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May 31 2007, 12:49 PM
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It's not really about why you want to stay in prison over death. I mean, if you don't want to live anymore, it's not rocket science to figure out a way to end your life. I don't really understand why the seek for a death penalty.
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May 31 2007, 01:02 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 31 2007, 01:45 PM) the stabbings, well, granted some prisons will be better than others QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 31 2007, 01:45 PM) the never being able to go outside every prison I've ever seen has a courtyard area, and usually w/a damn basketball court. QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 31 2007, 01:45 PM) your friends and family losing touch with you well, how many of these people are in touch with their families in the first place? also ever heard of conjugal visits? QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 31 2007, 01:45 PM) every order screamed at you from a guy in a uniform aww poor babies |
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May 31 2007, 01:23 PM
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Your Private Eye Group: Members Posts: 252 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 60 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ May 31 2007, 01:21 PM) maybe just me... but some people enjoy breathing. especially those who don't feel there's anything after death for them. hell, with the prisons here, a life sentence is better than lots of people's everyday lives. friggin cable TV, weight rooms, people get college degrees while in prison, etc etc. I think a person would get their fill of all that, waiting the 5-10 years on death row. |
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May 31 2007, 01:25 PM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
QUOTE (Inferia @ May 31 2007, 01:49 PM) It's not really about why you want to stay in prison over death. I mean, if you don't want to live anymore, it's not rocket science to figure out a way to end your life. I don't really understand why the seek for a death penalty. Suicide is an unacceptable means of death in many religions. Some people just can't bring themselves to do it. Then there's the suicide-by-cop that happens every now and then. -------------------- Spam? Isn't that something poor people eat?
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May 31 2007, 01:50 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
conjugal visits are a rarity now adays. there are prisons that have little more than tall cages the prisoners can pace in. and an hour a day to pace in your cage? i mean id love that. you may only be outside or moving around for an hour a day but most people arent
and actually there seem to be a whole lot of prisoners who have some family whether its a gf or a grandmother. the stress of being seperate, the family giving up on them, or just not being able to afford to drive to wherever prison they are shipped to is a big deal many of americas prisons are way better than other countries. i wonder what the italian prisons are like? id wager they dont have basketball courts -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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May 31 2007, 02:01 PM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
I don't see the problem. Why would you want to make a prison more inviting??? lol
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May 31 2007, 02:10 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
because it seems to help lower repeat offenders
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May 31 2007, 03:20 PM
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Super max prisons, where they largely give solitary and 1 hr outside, are being done away with because of the effect on prisoners. Solitary increases mental problems, mental problems lead to repeat offenders (or people asking for the death penalty lol).
Its a good idea to rehabilitate, however, its a good idea to punish the fuckers too. -------------------- |
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May 31 2007, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 31 2007, 01:21 PM) maybe just me... but some people enjoy breathing. especially those who don't feel there's anything after death for them. hell, with the prisons here, a life sentence is better than lots of people's everyday lives. friggin cable TV, weight rooms, people get college degrees while in prison, etc etc. Well impala's never been to jail. But I'm sure with all his expertise in the prison system he can say how awesome it is. |
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May 31 2007, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (James @ May 31 2007, 12:35 PM) Who cares what prisoners want? And that maximum sentence of 30 years they have in the works is a bad idea. Kill someone at 20. Turn around, kill them again at 50. And you can even get one more in at 80 I'm intrigued. How would you kill the same person 2-3 times? I don't have the statistics, but the average prisoner will not make it 30 years in the pen, much less 60 years. The life expectancy in these prisons is not very long. QUOTE (impala454 @ May 31 2007, 02:02 PM) every prison I've ever seen has a courtyard area, and usually w/a damn basketball court. How many people can use a basketball court at once? Ten. Do you want to try to get in on a game and piss off some other guy that wanted to play? They do get recreational time, but it's so that their bodies don't deteriorate or atrophy. Some of these guys aren't in their for life and their crimes may not be violent crimes, so they will try to enter the real world again some day. QUOTE well, how many of these people are in touch with their families in the first place? also ever heard of conjugal visits? I'm sure there are quite a few that have wives/kids or are still in touch with their families. The problem is the stuff that Cathryn said, they lose touch with their families and have to deal with the fact that their loved ones will move on and eventually you will be stuck in their and they'll have to deal with the rest of their lives without you. The chapters of your family's life involving you are over. QUOTE aww poor babies I don't feel sorry for the inmates, but you don't even like it when pedestrians walk in front of you, dictating the pace you can drive your vehicle. How would you like being told when and how to eat, drink, sleep, shit, piss, exercise, and think. I also don't buy the shit about prisoners having more stuff than most people do like TV, beds, radio, blah blah blah. For people serving life in prison, their life is structured by people who basically own them. They can't do anything to improve their situation like people on the outside can (capitalistic society). They get to watch TV for an hour a day or whatever and read some books, but that's all their ever going to be able to do. It's not like they get to earn a college degree and use it, they are going to be the smartest motherfucker on Cell Block D with no way to put that degree to use. I see these extra amenities and educational options as a good way to keep prisoners entertained and doing something that isn't causing trouble to the other inmates or employees. QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 31 2007, 02:50 PM) i wonder what the italian prisons are like? id wager they dont have basketball courts Are you trying to say italians are too short and white to play basketball? -------------------- LANCE IS PRO-CENSORSHIP! HE IS CENSORING MY LOVE FOR THE LORD!
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