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> Do you believe you have Free Will?, a philosophical debate
Do you believe you have free will?
Do you believe you have free will?
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Epic
post May 24 2007, 01:05 PM
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Alright everyone, just a philosophical debate/dialog.

The boards are full of the same political banter back and forth, so let's try something different.

Basically, do you believe in free will? do you have it?

Let's try to keep this clean and not personal. Be smart, not petty.




Personally, I vote no. Why?
a. No one ever asked me if I wanted to exist. because of that, my actions are directly a response to a denial of free will, and therefore not my own.

b. Consequentialism. I believe that every event is interrelated. I do think there was a "big bang" type event, but I don't bother myself with what happened before that other than everything that happens is a product of what happened, and therefore predictable and unavoidable. No free will there either.

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- Epic   Do you believe you have Free Will?   May 24 2007, 01:05 PM
- - Psykopath   My birth may not have been of my free will, but gi...   May 24 2007, 01:15 PM
- - James   Yes, but only in the details. The main theme is n...   May 24 2007, 01:18 PM
- - Jessica   Most of the people on here are probably compatibli...   May 24 2007, 01:38 PM
- - cupcake   no the interconnectedness of everything is far to...   May 24 2007, 01:45 PM
- - TinEqualWin   You sound Buddhist or Taoist, which is a good thin...   May 24 2007, 02:03 PM
- - THECHICKEN   Is your brain "you"? Does a loss of fr...   May 24 2007, 03:29 PM
- - impala454   I'm not really sure how anyone could answer ...   May 24 2007, 03:57 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 24 2007, 04:57 PM)...   May 24 2007, 05:13 PM
||- - kcroxyoursox   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 24 2007, 06:13 ...   May 24 2007, 07:29 PM
||- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (kcroxyoursox @ May 24 2007, 08:29 ...   May 24 2007, 10:08 PM
|- - cupcake   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 24 2007, 04:57 PM)...   May 25 2007, 08:29 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cupcake @ May 25 2007, 09:29 AM) y...   May 25 2007, 09:08 AM
- - James   Just because you make a choice doesn't mean th...   May 24 2007, 04:13 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (James @ May 24 2007, 05:13 PM) Jus...   May 24 2007, 04:17 PM
|- - Jim   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 24 2007, 03:17 PM)...   May 24 2007, 05:26 PM
- - moebary   You've already made the choice, now you have t...   May 24 2007, 04:15 PM
- - James   Just because you don't know that it was pre-de...   May 24 2007, 04:23 PM
- - Testm0nkey   your brain and physiology dictate your behavior wi...   May 24 2007, 05:00 PM
- - Spectatrix   Yes, but our actions are heavily influenced by cir...   May 24 2007, 05:13 PM
|- - Testm0nkey   QUOTE (Spectatrix @ May 24 2007, 06:13 PM...   May 24 2007, 05:18 PM
- - Divergent Reality   yaaaaaaaay biology vs theology now we need someo...   May 24 2007, 05:23 PM
- - Testm0nkey   its a mind vs body problem. its been debated for c...   May 24 2007, 05:26 PM
- - Testm0nkey   keep this going! this idea is one of the majo...   May 24 2007, 05:29 PM
- - James   Think all the posters have already posted   May 24 2007, 05:31 PM
- - schwab   yes   May 24 2007, 07:47 PM
- - Renegadepeon   Nope.   May 24 2007, 08:06 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE ("Rush @ ''Free Will...   May 25 2007, 01:47 AM
- - impala454   I am a Christian, and I believe God has a plan for...   May 25 2007, 08:10 AM
|- - Renegadepeon   It would have to be predetermined. I can program ...   May 25 2007, 08:37 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ May 25 2007, 09:37 ...   May 25 2007, 09:11 AM
- - kcroxyoursox   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 25 2007, 10:11 AM)...   May 25 2007, 09:20 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (kcroxyoursox @ May 25 2007, 10:20 ...   May 25 2007, 09:51 AM
|- - Renegadepeon   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 25 2007, 10:51 AM)...   May 25 2007, 10:55 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ May 25 2007, 11:55 ...   May 25 2007, 11:58 AM
|- - Renegadepeon   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 25 2007, 12:58 PM)...   May 25 2007, 02:10 PM
- - cupcake   you don't get it. it's a plan. to think yo...   May 25 2007, 09:21 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cupcake @ May 25 2007, 10:21 AM) y...   May 25 2007, 10:02 AM
- - chook   My hatred for the Lubbock City Council is def free...   May 25 2007, 10:06 AM
- - cupcake   it's not about age...it's about how many t...   May 25 2007, 10:21 AM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cupcake @ May 25 2007, 11:21 AM) i...   May 25 2007, 11:55 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 25 2007, 12:55 PM)...   May 25 2007, 12:27 PM
- - Jessica   I dont believe in Free Will in the sense that we h...   May 25 2007, 10:33 AM
- - cupcake   jessica's smart? wtf!? ftw!   May 25 2007, 10:44 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (cupcake @ May 25 2007, 11:44 AM) j...   May 25 2007, 10:45 AM
|- - JRockTTU   QUOTE (cupcake @ May 25 2007, 11:44 AM) j...   May 25 2007, 04:03 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (JRockTTU @ May 25 2007, 05:03 PM) ...   May 29 2007, 08:35 AM
- - woody   living in a vacuum (no outside factors) you'd ...   May 25 2007, 10:58 AM
- - Epic   i love how everyone has ignored both of my argumen...   May 25 2007, 11:03 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Epic @ May 25 2007, 12:03 PM) i lo...   May 25 2007, 11:03 AM
- - woody   QUOTE (Epic @ May 24 2007, 01:05 PM) a. N...   May 25 2007, 11:05 AM
- - cupcake   I wasn't talking to everyone, I was talking to...   May 25 2007, 12:10 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cupcake @ May 25 2007, 01:10 PM) i...   May 25 2007, 12:50 PM
- - Testm0nkey   chossing to not shoot someone in cold blood is not...   May 25 2007, 12:16 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 25 2007, 01:16 PM...   May 25 2007, 12:53 PM
- - cupcake   jessica, no I believe we live multiple lives. I th...   May 25 2007, 12:55 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (cupcake @ May 25 2007, 01:55 PM) j...   May 25 2007, 01:33 PM
- - impala454   well say these things happen to you, and that you...   May 25 2007, 01:20 PM
- - James   The obvious answer is to buy EVERY color shirt   May 25 2007, 01:24 PM
- - cupcake   the first time you're just going at it clueles...   May 25 2007, 01:44 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (cupcake @ May 25 2007, 02:44 PM) h...   May 25 2007, 02:49 PM
- - Jessica   I must be a newbie because Im not good at anything...   May 25 2007, 01:47 PM
|- - Dogmeat   QUOTE (Jessica @ May 25 2007, 01:47 PM) I...   May 25 2007, 01:52 PM
|- - FORSAKENR320   QUOTE (Jessica @ May 25 2007, 02:47 PM) I...   May 25 2007, 08:56 PM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 25 2007, 09:56 ...   May 29 2007, 08:37 AM
- - impala454   and renegade: so from what you're saying, free...   May 25 2007, 02:51 PM
- - cupcake   Renegadepeon's explanation is much less looney...   May 25 2007, 02:57 PM
- - cupcake   he made the wrong decision that day. karma is how ...   May 25 2007, 03:01 PM
- - impala454   oh for sure man. I know there have been tons of i...   May 25 2007, 03:11 PM
- - zetec   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 25 2007, 09:10 AM)...   May 25 2007, 03:56 PM
- - Dogmeat   this thread reminds me of that stupid ass fucking ...   May 25 2007, 04:08 PM
- - griseyeux   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 25 2007, 03:51 PM)...   May 25 2007, 06:54 PM
- - Epic   this is all well and good, the whole discussion ab...   May 25 2007, 07:00 PM
- - griseyeux   QUOTE (Epic @ May 25 2007, 08:00 PM) this...   May 25 2007, 07:02 PM
- - Epic   in response to woody's sperm theory. well sir...   May 25 2007, 07:05 PM
- - pebkac   I'm a firm believer in chaos theory. Everythi...   May 25 2007, 09:36 PM
- - RitalinJunkie   yes...free will   May 26 2007, 01:05 AM
- - jonathan83   definitely not reading all this... but yeah, i be...   May 26 2007, 02:28 AM
- - Dogmeat   god dammit! you're all HIPPIES!!...   May 26 2007, 10:01 AM
|- - Jessica   QUOTE (Dogmeat @ May 26 2007, 11:01 AM) g...   May 29 2007, 08:41 AM
- - impala454   I think most of you who say we have no free will (...   May 29 2007, 08:23 AM
|- - Testm0nkey   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 29 2007, 09:23 AM)...   May 29 2007, 01:09 PM
|- - impala454   QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ May 29 2007, 02:09 PM...   May 29 2007, 01:49 PM
- - Testm0nkey   if you have no conscious ability to change, decide...   May 29 2007, 02:25 PM
- - impala454   so, your brain is not you then? and how the hell ...   May 29 2007, 02:30 PM
- - Testm0nkey   the term liberal doenst just have to do with polit...   May 29 2007, 02:33 PM
- - impala454   ah ok. just seems weird to me that one wouldn...   May 29 2007, 02:36 PM
- - Testm0nkey   everything you do is because of your brain is it n...   May 29 2007, 02:38 PM
- - impala454   what i'm saying is, my brain is part of me, my...   May 29 2007, 02:47 PM
|- - John6.7   Cathryn is right on this one. Impala, read any ps...   May 29 2007, 03:52 PM
|- - James   QUOTE (John6.7 @ May 29 2007, 04:52 PM) C...   May 30 2007, 07:06 PM
- - Testm0nkey   if a decision is made and you are not aware of it ...   May 29 2007, 02:54 PM
- - impala454   so you're not aware of any decisions you make?   May 29 2007, 03:01 PM
- - Jim   And you're aware of every decision your brain ...   May 29 2007, 03:11 PM
- - impala454   my brain is part of me... brains don't make de...   May 29 2007, 03:16 PM
- - Testm0nkey   you are aware of the decisions you make AFTER they...   May 29 2007, 03:34 PM
- - Jim   Impala, you decide to twitch?   May 29 2007, 04:02 PM
|- - James   QUOTE (Jim @ May 29 2007, 05:02 PM) Impal...   May 30 2007, 06:57 PM
- - TetraGrammaton Cleric   ok, so i skimmed this thread and looks as if we ar...   May 29 2007, 04:26 PM
- - griseyeux   QUOTE (impala454 @ May 29 2007, 04:16 PM)...   May 30 2007, 06:39 PM
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