Lingerie Store Raid Options

[James]

Oh yeah, and I'm not sure why or how they're registering them as a sex offender. Obscenity doesn't qualify as an offense that requires registering as a sex offender according to the Code of Criminal Procedure Chapter 62 - http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/...0.htm#62.001.00 - UNLESS there is evidence they sold these products to minors or the products involved minors, in which case, I think we would all agree these bastards need to rot in hell and shame on the media for failing to report that part.

[THECHICKEN]

Um... i doubt they are being charged with obscenity (and if they are the statute has been twisted it seems like)... considering the fact that "6 Identical items" in that statute refers to PRESUMING the person to be guilty of intent to distribute obscene material. If the material is obscene (and its a store that sells it) then you don't need the "6 item" thing.

(e) A person who promotes or wholesale promotes obscene
material or an obscene device or possesses the same with intent to
promote or wholesale promote it in the course of his business is
presumed to do so with knowledge of its content and character.
(f) A person who possesses six or more obscene devices or
identical or similar obscene articles is presumed to possess them
with intent to promote the same.

So yeah, im guessing its a zoning ordinance where in that zone you can't do the certain thing (over 6 items or what not) without being in violation of the zone and then maybe a presumtion of sex crime?

Seems like a wierd law honestly if it takes selling more than 6 to equal a crime....
If only i wasn't too lazy to use my law school resources to look it up haha. (writing a paper)

[James]

Um... i doubt they are being charged with obscenity (and if they are the statute has been twisted it seems like)... considering the fact that "6 Identical items" in that statute refers to PRESUMING the person to be guilty of intent to distribute obscene material. If the material is obscene (and its a store that sells it) then you don't need the "6 item" thing.
So yeah, im guessing its a zoning ordinance where in that zone you can't do the certain thing (over 6 items or what not) without being in violation of the zone and then maybe a presumtion of sex crime?

Seems like a wierd law honestly if it takes selling more than 6 to equal a crime....
If only i wasn't too lazy to use my law school resources to look it up haha. (writing a paper)

Nah, they're only presuming the person to be knowledgeable of the content and character of the material. Back to what the D.A. was talking about selling something as a sex toy vs selling something as a cake topping or whatever.

The more than six part is there to mean that any person owning more than six must have possessed so many because they intended to sell them. Not sure why their even mentioning this either since he was selling the stuff openly.

[THECHICKEN]

Nah, they're only presuming the person to be knowledgeable of the content and character of the material. Back to what the D.A. was talking about selling something as a sex toy vs selling something as a cake topping or whatever.

The more than six part is there to mean that any person owning more than six must have possessed so many because they intended to sell them. Not sure why their even mentioning this either since he was selling the stuff openly.

A person who possesses six or more obscene devices or
identical or similar obscene articles is presumed to possess them
with intent to promote the same.

No it means that with 6 you are presumed to have intent to sell (promote, whatever), thats all it means. And if you are a store actively selling them, then the 6 items doesn't matter. The 6 items says nothing to the obscenity. If its obscene... and you intend to sell it (a store) then they can get you. The 6 item thing isn't even a factor. thats why im confused (if it is indeed an obscenity violation)

[James]

That's what I just said?

[zetec]

funny story: When I was hit by a suburban my freshman year which totaled my car and landed me in the hospital, I was driving outside of city limits to some sex shop the interweb said was there (I don't think it really was) to buy one of my friends a vibrator for her birthday. (not a gag gift, lol, she really asked for one).

Anyways, the state trooper is getting the accident report from me at the hospital, I'm loaded up with morphine and start to tell him the story, not knowing anything about the laws on the subject. All of a sudden, as soon as I jokingly say the word vibrator, his face gets super duper serious and he starts looking at me like I was hauling 50 kilos of coke or something like that. He started questioning me all super pissedoff/serious/intimidatingish about the location of the store and how many i was buying and who it was for etc etc etc. I was kinda like, dude, never even made it to the store, as you can fucking see, chill out.

long story short, this analness has been going on for a while.

[THECHICKEN]

That's what I just said?

Im sorry, when i seen you put "Nah, it means......yada yada" i figured you were going against what i said the first time. So i just quoted and repeated lol. Glad im not the only one confused about that "6 item thing"

[JRockTTU]

funny story: When I was hit by a suburban my freshman year which totaled my car and landed me in the hospital, I was driving outside of city limits to some sex shop the interweb said was there (I don't think it really was) to buy one of my friends a vibrator for her birthday. (not a gag gift, lol, she really asked for one).

Anyways, the state trooper is getting the accident report from me at the hospital, I'm loaded up with morphine and start to tell him the story, not knowing anything about the laws on the subject. All of a sudden, as soon as I jokingly say the word vibrator, his face gets super duper serious and he starts looking at me like I was hauling 50 kilos of coke or something like that. He started questioning me all super pissedoff/serious/intimidatingish about the location of the store and how many i was buying and who it was for etc etc etc. I was kinda like, dude, never even made it to the store, as you can fucking see, chill out.

long story short, this analness has been going on for a while.

I'm assuming you're talking about the shop on west 19th street. It's there, just really small and really hard to notice.

[zetec]

nah, this was supposedly off of university WAAAAY outside of city limits. never found the place.

[Divergent Realit...]

same crap has happened to a shop in austin a few times. if someone gets not lazy they can search-fu it out.

[Billy]

It's only a matter of time before they start arresting homosexuals.

And then non-believers.

And then jews.

[kcroxyoursox]

Yeah. Yall are barking up the wrong tree. City council and mayor have no control over this law.

I'm not sure it's the law they're wanting to argue. It's more that with all the drugs, prostitution, crime and other BIG DEAL issues in Lubbock, this is their top priority.

[James]

I highly doubt that this was their top priority but more of a media's priority. Has no one heard of multi-tasking? Not like it took a lot of manpower to "raid" one store with one employee.

[Psykopath]

I highly doubt that this was their top priority but more of a media's priority. Has no one heard of multi-tasking? Not like it took a lot of manpower to "raid" one store with one employee.

According to the news, 4 patrol cars took part in the "raid."

But hey, I didn't see it on Fox News so it was probably a lie...Because you just KNOW this city doesn't waste man power/resources at all! I mean, they only used 8+ officers, a paddy wagon, and leg irons for the Chippendale's fiasco. That wasn't over the line at all either.

[chook]

I love the shitty english, six sexual item