 If you talk the talk, would you walk the walk?, So if we finally decided to end the "middle east conflicts" |
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 May 9 2007, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE I really don't see how one would be willing to go join up and fight for something they don't believe in. as a troop...you don't get to pick the wars you fight. |
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May 9 2007, 10:33 AM
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 Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (cupcake @ May 9 2007, 11:27 AM)  "grunts" means infantry...officers can be grunts (my dad was a grunt officer). the term is a badge of misery and honor we hold dear. recall the movie 'aliens', where that guy says "corporal hicks is just a grunt...no offense"..."none taken". it's like that yo...  Thanks for clearing that up. I have no problem being on the ground and leading a platoon, but would much rather be an officer than the guy kicking in the door And yes, I agree, the gunnery sgts have a lot more "real world" experience just because they have to to do their job. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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May 9 2007, 10:34 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
There are a lot of reasons why people join up to fight for something they don't believe in, the number one (IMO) is the fact that they have some pull in what exactly they end up doing. If you get drafted, things are laid out for you. If you join, you request things and have the possibility of becoming a desk jockey.
-------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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May 9 2007, 10:40 AM
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getting drafted would suck ass.
end up being a sanitation specialist or some other miserably lame shit that no one wants to do. nowadays, the infantry quota stays filled. there's a waiting list for that MOS. says something about this generation of motivated killers LOL |
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May 9 2007, 10:57 AM
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Fool Group: Members Posts: 2,127 Joined: 23-February 06 From: LBB Member No.: 56 |
QUOTE (cupcake @ May 9 2007, 11:27 AM) few...if any 22yr old boot Lt.s have quality leadership experience. That's what OCS, TBS, and then your NCO's are for. In combat arms, E-4's (Corporals) require much more real-world experience than a boot Lt. "the strategic corporal" (google it) is who runs the modern ground war. Interesting read. -------------------- Spam? Isn't that something poor people eat?
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May 9 2007, 10:59 AM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I clicked "wouldnt fight at all" before I read the thread. I have often times considered joining the military mostly because its good money coming out of school. I know Im a girl, but I think that the general morale of the soldiers are low when a draft is enforced, unless our national security has directly been attacked (like in the case of Pearl Harbor). If I were a guy, I would join before the draft. I think that its important to protect our rights, and oil is a definite necessity in our society. We just went about this war the wrong way.
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May 9 2007, 11:26 AM
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i don't support the war, and i don't support a draft
why do i want to go fight for jewish bankers and the federal reserve? |
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May 9 2007, 11:39 AM
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 DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
QUOTE (Overlord @ May 9 2007, 11:26 AM) i don't support the war, and i don't support a draft why do i want to go fight for jewish bankers and the federal reserve? Because... -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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May 9 2007, 12:18 PM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER  Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ May 9 2007, 11:59 AM) i know Im a girl, but I think that the general morale of the soldiers are low when a draft is enforced that true... the troops ould always use more oral err.... i mean moral support --------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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May 9 2007, 12:23 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ May 9 2007, 01:18 PM) that true... the troops ould always use more oral err.... i mean moral support PERV
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May 9 2007, 01:18 PM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (cupcake @ May 9 2007, 11:31 AM) as a troop...you don't get to pick the wars you fight. oh I totally agree, but you have to be insensitive to your own moral obligations. just seems it would be detrimental to your job. And the option really kinda contradicts itself as far as supporting/not supporting the war. it reminds me of all the politicians who came out with their "I don't support the war but I support the troops" BS. it just doesn't make much sense to me... what support are you showing someone, by rejecting everything they do? |
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May 9 2007, 01:35 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 16 |
I've thought about joining the military a couple of times, and even took a couple of tests for a couple of different branches of service, but in the deep corners of my mind I knew I was never going to sign on the dotted line.
At this point in my life, the military is essentially a career option if things don't work out at my current job. Now, if an actual country attacked us Pearl Harbor-style sometime in the near future? I'd probably go sign up right away. EDIT: My views on Iraq are complicated. I took what the White House said about WMDs in the year leading up to the war at face value, and supported their efforts to go and remove them. Obviously, now I do not support the reasons for the war but am against just pulling out. Regardless of the reason, we got into this mess, so we might as well finish it. |
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May 9 2007, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ May 9 2007, 02:18 PM) oh I totally agree, but you have to be insensitive to your own moral obligations. just seems it would be detrimental to your job. And the option really kinda contradicts itself as far as supporting/not supporting the war. it reminds me of all the politicians who came out with their "I don't support the war but I support the troops" BS. it just doesn't make much sense to me... what support are you showing someone, by rejecting everything they do? the important part is in bold. I can only speak for the way things were in my unit, but we were of a certain mindset, which was far removed from any moral anything. if we were told to invade frickin canada, we would have been stoked just for the fight. |
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May 9 2007, 02:34 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
that's what we need to do... heheh
i had an english teacher in high school who had that philosophy.. take over canada and mexico and isolate ourselves from the rest of the world. |
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