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James
post Apr 20 2007, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Apr 20 2007, 01:50 PM) *
it's not taking away anything that they shouldn't have had the right for anyway. you should have to earn that crap. non-citizens should't recieve the benifits of the constitution, the rights they portray, until they are fully subjugated to the laws that also defend those rights. meaning they have to be full u.s. citizens.


I have to ask...

What did you do to earn those rights? What have you done for your country lately, other than pay taxes, the same taxes that everyone else that lives here for more than 6 months (I think it's 6) out of a year has to pay?

Personally, I don't think I have earned a thing by having my mother squirt me out 24 years ago. Some people seem to think they have.

All this arguing is stupid. Both sides are being fueled by a hatred that isn't normally present except for extreme times. Both sides have valid points and both sides have fucking ignorant points. Just stop before you say something you'd regret in the future.


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post Apr 20 2007, 01:13 PM
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you have to take into account immigration to america compared to say immigration to China even countries in Europe. Whenever, figuratively speaking, everyone and their mom is trying to come to America you have to put some stop to that.

edit: and its not like the US is tough on citizenship its more like we are just reaching the already set standards that exist everywhere else


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post Apr 20 2007, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE (James @ Apr 20 2007, 02:12 PM) *
I have to ask...

What did you do to earn those rights? What have you done for your country lately, other than pay taxes, the same taxes that everyone else that lives here for more than 6 months (I think it's 6) out of a year has to pay?

Personally, I don't think I have earned a thing by having my mother squirt me out 24 years ago. Some people seem to think they have.

All this arguing is stupid. Both sides are being fueled by a hatred that isn't normally present except for extreme times. Both sides have valid points and both sides have fucking ignorant points. Just stop before you say something you'd regret in the future.



no, i agree with you. but there is this point. they are coming to us. i didn't ask to be born here. i am glad i was, but i didn't have a choice in the matter. i grew up having to accept these laws. THOSE people have a 2nd option. they can stay there if they don't like it. they can go back if it's too tough.


and most illegals stay illegal. they get jobs that are off the books, therefore don't pay taxes. or they counterfeit identities and pay them. Excel meat packing in plainview is bad about that. you have 1 identity for work, a 2nd identity for welfare. if your first identity gets fired from excel, you take it to file unemployment. i talked to a friend of mine who i know is an illegal in plainview, and thats what his uncle does.


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post Apr 20 2007, 01:28 PM
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people still dont seem to understand how much we depend on illegal workers and the economy makes HUUUUUUUUUUGE amounts of money because of them


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post Apr 20 2007, 01:46 PM
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agreed...I'd like to see a state sponsored "guest worker program"

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I'm not hating on anyone. I respect foreigners just fine. We're discussing their role in America.
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post Apr 20 2007, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 20 2007, 02:13 PM) *
you have to take into account immigration to america compared to say immigration to China even countries in Europe. Whenever, figuratively speaking, everyone and their mom is trying to come to America you have to put some stop to that.

edit: and its not like the US is tough on citizenship its more like we are just reaching the already set standards that exist everywhere else

very true. it's almost impossible to get a work visa anywhere within the European Union, let alone citizenship. i've tried looking for jobs over there, yet all have the same requirement: "must have EU passport"


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post Apr 20 2007, 02:44 PM
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kinda funny, the job I just started a few weeks ago, I basically filled an open position left by a guy who got deported back to china.

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post Apr 20 2007, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Apr 20 2007, 02:28 PM) *
people still dont seem to understand how much we depend on illegal workers and the economy makes HUUUUUUUUUUGE amounts of money because of them


i don't understand why people think we're calling for the deportation of all legal and illegal aliens


i'm simply stating that anyone not an american citizen shouldn't be allowed to buy weapons or protest the government...


a good example is all of those illegal immigrants in austin that protested the state capitol about the immigration issue...most of them were arrested and were about to be deported when they sued and won in a federal court...

now they're getting paid a hundred dollars each person


so now we're rewarding illegal immigrants for protesting OUR systems?

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post Apr 20 2007, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Apr 20 2007, 01:50 PM) *
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how many times in the past several months has some wetback motherfucker decided to stab somebody in the clubs? my friend Gabe was killed last year by 2 wetbacks, who were only deported. i was stabbed by a fucking wetback in the arm that only got deported. one of the people that kept kidnapping girls in lubbock was an immigrant also, but america managed to keep ahold of him rather than deport him. those fuckers shouldn't be allowed to recieve ANY benifits. welfare, hud, ANYTHING AT-FUCKING-ALL until they have earned the right to be americans fully. when they are full americans, then they can recieve aid, but they are also fully subjected to our laws and should act accordingly. leeching sons of bitches that take advantage of the system while still flying the mexican flag. fuck them and send those bean eating mother fuckers back to mexico via catapult and erect the god damn Great Wall of Texas already!



How many times in the past has some redneck mother fucker decided to stab someone at the club?


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post Apr 20 2007, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Apr 20 2007, 04:15 PM) *
How many times in the past has some redneck mother fucker decided to stab someone at the club?


No No Spivey. Redneck mother fuckers take them down into their basements and make them their gimps.


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post Apr 20 2007, 03:22 PM
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This tradgedy should not be made into a racial and/or immigration question. That is really all I am saying.


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post Apr 20 2007, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Apr 20 2007, 01:50 PM) *
it's not taking away anything that they shouldn't have had the right for anyway. you should have to earn that crap. non-citizens should't recieve the benifits of the constitution, the rights they portray, until they are fully subjugated to the laws that also defend those rights. meaning they have to be full u.s. citizens.
how many times in the past several months has some wetback motherfucker decided to stab somebody in the clubs? my friend Gabe was killed last year by 2 wetbacks, who were only deported. i was stabbed by a fucking wetback in the arm that only got deported. one of the people that kept kidnapping girls in lubbock was an immigrant also, but america managed to keep ahold of him rather than deport him. those fuckers shouldn't be allowed to recieve ANY benifits. welfare, hud, ANYTHING AT-FUCKING-ALL until they have earned the right to be americans fully. when they are full americans, then they can recieve aid, but they are also fully subjected to our laws and should act accordingly. leeching sons of bitches that take advantage of the system while still flying the mexican flag. fuck them and send those bean eating mother fuckers back to mexico via catapult and erect the god damn Great Wall of Texas already!


Yes, Brandon...because only illegal Mexican immigrants do such things. ermm.gif


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post Apr 20 2007, 06:28 PM
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It is a lot harder to gain citizenship anywhere else in the world. Is that not clicking? My parents were immigrants yes it was a lot easier in the 80s but i mean... come on. everything past the first page in this thread is ridiculous

and please, please, stop calling the kid mentally ill.

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post Apr 21 2007, 04:49 AM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Apr 20 2007, 05:23 PM) *
Yes, Brandon...because only illegal Mexican immigrants do such things. ermm.gif



that was my point, spivey was implying that immigrants don't contribute much to the crime rate, when i greatly disagree. everyone does it, but those bastards shouldn't be here in the first place to have committed the crime.


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post Apr 21 2007, 11:26 AM
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