Virginia Tech Shootings, 33 dead, including shooter Options

[Hartmann]

Now there are inklings that he was here on a student visa from Shanghai, China... Great, he was probably pissed off that some American game maker had stolen so many minutes of his life so he decided to take it out on his fellow students.

[James]

Yall do realize that if this happened here, it would have gone down the same way, right? You've seen how long it takes them to decide to cancel classes and then once they do get that message out - I'm thinking back to when they cancelled classes at like 3 and the e-mail didn't go out until after 3. Then there's the fact that a school's responsibility is to educate the students. They can't shut down a school of that size just because someone died. There's 20k+ other students that are still there to learn.

For comparison, that'd be like shutting down a small city because of one death. How many do you know of that get shut down over a murder? Hell, even my hometown with a population of like 8000 hasn't shut down over any of the murders we've had there.

Media and everyone else needs to quit blaming the school for this. Only person at fault was the shooter and he's dead now. Mourn and move on.

So has anyone else seen reports that the gunman apparently shot himself?

The chief said it during hte press conference.

[Testm0nkey]

well done

[Mommy]

I dont see how its so inconceivable to think that there should have been more information passed along about the 2 murders long before the others ever went down. Man, if I had heard on the radio that there were two people shot at my school, I wouldnt go that day...plain and simple. Students and faculty should have been warned in a reasonable amount of time that 2 people were shot and if anyone wanted to go home, they could. A murder on campus DURING MORNING doesnt happen everyday, week, month, or even year.

[Testm0nkey]

do we know no one talked about it? im sure the administration adn campus police were notified.

[Hartmann]

Yall do realize that if this happened here, it would have gone down the same way, right? You've seen how long it takes them to decide to cancel classes and then once they do get that message out - I'm thinking back to when they cancelled classes at like 3 and the e-mail didn't go out until after 3. Then there's the fact that a school's responsibility is to educate the students. They can't shut down a school of that size just because someone died. There's 20k+ other students that are still there to learn.

For comparison, that'd be like shutting down a small city because of one death. How many do you know of that get shut down over a murder? Hell, even my hometown with a population of like 8000 hasn't shut down over any of the murders we've had there.

Media and everyone else needs to quit blaming the school for this. Only person at fault was the shooter and he's dead now. Mourn and move on.
The chief said it during hte press conference.

Echoing my earlier post... I completely agree.

[jonathan83]

all we know so far about the dude was that he was 24 years old and from China, on a student visa. apparently had no friends, or very little friends.

[schwab]

same thing at any college...that is what is scary

the head of the police almost sounded like these were 2 different guys that did the first round and second round

if so..maybe he was triggered by the first one

[Mommy]

Wow. this has got to be one of the saddest things I have ever read.

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070417/ap_on_...a_tech_shooting

Alec Calhoun, a 20-year-old junior, said he was in a 9:05 a.m. mechanics class when he and classmates heard a thunderous sound from the classroom next door — "what sounded like an enormous hammer."

Screams followed an instant later, and the banging continued. When students realized the sounds were gunshots, Calhoun said, he started flipping over desks for hiding places. Others dashed to the windows of the second-floor classroom, kicking out the screens and jumping from the ledge of Room 204, he said.

"I must've been the eighth or ninth person who jumped, and I think I was the last," said Calhoun, of Waynesboro, Va. He landed in a bush and ran.

Calhoun said that the two students behind him were shot, but that he believed they survived. Just before he climbed out the window, Calhoun said, he turned to look at the professor, who had stayed behind, perhaps to block the door.

The instructor was killed, he said.

[THECHICKEN]

What amazes me is that i've only heard this kid to have had 1 (maybe 2) pistols. And 9mm at that. How the fuck do you kill 30+ people with 9mm pistols?

I just want to know how it went down... Executions? Because especially with people running away, a 9mm bullet doesn't do much damage respectably. Just seems crazy to me that he had time to put as many bullets into people (reloading and all) it would seem to take to kill 30 people. Did No one try to throw a book and rush the fucker while he tried to get a new clip in?

The main part that saddens me is the fact that no one got to kill this shit bag because he did himself. When the fucker gets to kill himself its like he gets to complete his mission and have finality. I wish someone would have taken his death out of his hand and ruined SOMETHING in his plan...

[GOB]

i'm more interested in how some chinaman got two guns

[schwab]

foxnews are pieces of shit....they had something on this guy oon national news when he had nothing to do with this whole thing

http://wanusmaximus.livejournal.com/

evne though he is a vt student...and they know it wasnt him

[Testm0nkey]

this is already understood

[impala454]

(from the link schwab posted)

is it just me or is that cop on the far right carrying the chick by her tits?!?

oh yeah.. and really, there's nothing you can do to prevent this kind of stuff from happening. it's just not feasible. stuff like this will happen, there are messed up people in this world and there's not a damn person here who can tell me how it could have been prevented, or how we can prevent this stuff in the future.

[TetraGrammaton C...]

The problem is a society which is fascinated and addicted to violence...

i have to disagree, spiv.

the fascination and addiction to violence seems to occur mostly in passive reception. that is, it is observed violence, rather than enacted violence. i think if this sort of thing was actually glorified (fully) then the immediate response to this type of incident would be responded to with glee rather than concern.
and obviously, this person was acting more out of emotion rather than fascination. he just unfortunately chose violence as the manner of expression.