What to do about Iran? Options

[The Fanatic]

Our whole lives yes. But before the Ayatollah and Jimmy Carter, they were on good terms with the U.S... This was when Libya was our enemy.

During the Iran-Iraq war both sides operated U.S. aircraft. There are some F-4s and F-14s in their arsenal but no one knows where they are or if they are even operable (since the embargo cut off parts for them)

Considering that the CIA masterminded and financed a military coup to displace the democratically elected Mohammed Mosaddeq and replace it with the Pahlavi dynasty in 1953, umm yeah they were are friends. Anytime you put someone in power they better damn well be your friend. That is why many Iranians feared the cancer treatments that the shah was receiving in America which led to them taking hostages in hopes of the shah being returned to Iran to face trial. The last thing the Iranians wanted was for the Americans to bring back the hated monarchy.

Britain MUST do something. They can't just let this go by without either negotiations or a special operations mission.

[Mommy]

1) I hope you're wrong for the sake of the world. I would fully support a war against Iran.

2) Russia is too weak to support anyone. And because the China/US economy is so intertwined, China would be forced to remain neutral in an Iran/US war. Their best interest lie more with the US than the black gold they receive from Iran. They can get oil elsewhere.

2a) Iran and NK have close ties? Explain to me how NK is going to march their army over to defend Iran? Because god knows they are not capable of invading the United States. They simply do not have the naval power. And what would they gain by defending Iran anyway? They need economic relief. And they will most certainly not get that relief by helping Iran.

1) I would support Iran's government being overthrown, but I would not support the years our soldiers would be over there trying to keep the peace.



2) Ummm.... ok, yeah, Since when has China ever made decisions that would benefit their economy? Hong Kong was a gold mine for China when it was turned over to them in 98. What did china do? They started limited commerce.



3) North Korea has access to nuclear weapons, which in case you didnt know this... do not need land soldiers or a navy fleet

[The Fanatic]

How exactly does North Korea intend to deliver these nuclear weapons and where to? I doubt that Iran would appreciate a nuclear bomb exploded in their territory.

[Hartmann]

Iran's government needs to capitulate due to unrest in the country, not from outside forces.

[The Fanatic]

I agree Hartmann. Given enough time, I believe that Iran will achieve democracy on its own terms.

[Mommy]

How exactly does North Korea intend to deliver these nuclear weapons and where to? I doubt that Iran would appreciate a nuclear bomb exploded in their territory.

of course, not on their territory. You dont need a huge fucking navy to bomb someone. All you need is a country that is willing to lend you a couple of ships

[The Fanatic]

It is not a "of course". A nuclear weapon could be deployed against US troops in Iranian territory. Name a country that would lend North Korea "A couple of ships". Not to mention one or two nuclear weapons is not much leverage when you consider that the united states has thousands of said weapons, it would be suicide to even attempt a nuclear attack. I don't see North Korea supporting Iran in the event of a possible US invasion.

[chook]

I don't know how I feel about U.S. assistance.... I think I would support logistical but that's about it.

The world needs to understand that this isn't an imperialistic setup and that this is Iran's fault, so the further the U.S. can stay away, the better (IMO)

Its middle east politics. Bush should of condemned Israel for invading Lebanon after it some of its soldiers were kidnapped. While giving them a high five on the side.

[jonathan83]

i'll also take Lance's $100 bet

[Mommy]

It is not a "of course". A nuclear weapon could be deployed against US troops in Iranian territory. Name a country that would lend North Korea "A couple of ships". Not to mention one or two nuclear weapons is not much leverage when you consider that the united states has thousands of said weapons, it would be suicide to even attempt a nuclear attack. I don't see North Korea supporting Iran in the event of a possible US invasion.

I dont know what you are trying to get at. My point isnt "HEY AT THIS VERY SECOND, NORTH KOREA CAN PUT BOMBS ANYWHERE SHE WANTS." My point is rather that if we build an alliance against Iran (which in my opinion would be a necessity because we have our troops so spread out right now) then Iran would also build an alliance that could consist of countries like North Korea, China, or Russia. This is all very hypothetical. I mean, in my opinion, its not too far fetched to think that North Korea has access to ships that arent her own...and that she has a significant weapon aresnal. Fortunately for us, Israel would most likely hop in on this and she have a pretty big arsenal as well.



Bottom line: The US and Britain do NOT want to fuck with Iran. It will either turn out to be another long, drawn out rebuilding like with Iraq or could turn into something way way more large scale. Thats just my projection on everything.

[The Fanatic]

I agree with you last post, it could result in world wide conflict.


I fear Russia much more than I do North Korea. Despite their weakness politically and economically, no one can deny the power of the ICBM.

[Mommy]

word

[Seeker]

after a few years into the war with iran, china and russia will invade the united states with a billion man army

[The Fanatic]

Allies aside, an invasion of Iran would be much more difficult than Iraq. The terrain is mountainous and the people belong to one united ethnic/religious group unlike Iraq.

[Mommy]

long live Russia