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 Mar 27 2007, 10:08 AM
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http://media.www.dailytexanonline.com/medi...m-2790881.shtml
http://www.digg.com/politics/To_Protect_Co...olitical_Debate QUOTE Assuming that college students are too dumb to think for themselves, a Texan lawmaker introduced a bill to "protect" them - by limiting political debate. Sir, if you really wanted to help college students, why not worry about how to make colleges more affordable so that ALL students can attend & decide what they want to do - or believe.
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Mar 27 2007, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE (Overlord @ Mar 27 2007, 11:08 AM)  http://media.www.dailytexanonline.com/medi...m-2790881.shtml http://www.digg.com/politics/To_Protect_Co...olitical_Debate Is he not right in saying there is a political bias in most college classes? In my experience he's right on the money. Professors don't teach the material (some do), they teach their ideology. That's not what I'm paying for. If I want their ideology I'll buy their soft cover on why American politics suck. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Mar 27 2007, 11:05 AM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
and thats why i couldnt stand the ridiculously biased philosophy classes at TTU
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Mar 27 2007, 11:14 AM
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Hartmann's all over it.
I actually had a history prof teach state "the reason we lost the Vietnam war was because we don't know guerilla warfare". nigga wha? that statement alone has 3 untruths and biases. another Prof taught that Grendel was the true hero in Beowulf. I disagree with the statement above that college students are too dumb to think for themselves. That is not right...I think they are merely impressionable, as kids are (teenager = kid). I feel many are misguided by adults who've spent their whole life in the academic vacuum and know jack shit about the real unsavory world. |
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Mar 27 2007, 11:56 AM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
i guess ive just had good teachers. i can understand in some classes/schools to really teach a subject so stupid people (cupcakes "teenagers") can grasp its meaning you have to present a point of view on the matter. but yes you should always make your own personal feelings ambiguous or present several view points. that can be tasking to do every single time you discuss a topic in a poli sci class.
i dont get why its so offensive. so your philo professor is a liberal (thats really surprising!) - im just betting what jessica meant by bias in her philosophy classes are towards the "outthere" liberal side more on topic: debate/discussion are one of the most interesting aspects of college courses. a couple of my teachers agree and we'll have these in class. its sad that at the beginning of each class they have to repeat commonsense rules about what a debate is and how it is not a precursor to WWE style fistacuffs. "teenagers" are stupid shutting them out completely is also stupid. these stupids should change not the format of discussion -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Mar 27 2007, 12:50 PM
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 Oh baby bring me down  Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
because of this, i am wearing my UT college republican shirt!
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Mar 27 2007, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Mar 27 2007, 11:05 AM) and thats why i couldnt stand the ridiculously biased philosophy classes at TTU ya i caught on that too even some of the English prof's were douches -------------------- |
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Mar 27 2007, 01:40 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
In my opinion, even a philosophy teacher can present material without displaying biased "outthere" liberal points of view (Im assuming that Cathryn means "out there" instead of "outttttthtere"). The only class where politics should have even been discussed (outside of Greek politics) is political philosophy. It seemed that the point of too many philosophy lectures was to disprove the existance of God. All the "cool kids" (in quotes because they only bathed once a week and dressed like they found their clothes in a dumpster.... *cough* *cough*) would laugh at anyone who tried to defend the Bible, instead of logically showing the Bible-thumpers where their arguement failed and then SHOWING (PAY ATTENTION HERE: THIS IS KEY) THEM HOW TO IMPROVE THEIR ARGUEMENT FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD.
Liberals think they own the school of philosophy. Its really quite funny in a pathetic kind of way. |
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Mar 27 2007, 01:54 PM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
nothing is more arrogant or ignorant than a hippy with a trendy idea of 101ism
--------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Mar 27 2007, 02:00 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I think I understand what you are saying, but just to clarify whats 101ism?
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Mar 27 2007, 02:03 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
i never really ran into any of that in my classes
i was always suprised there seemed to be a fair amount of conservative people in philosophy. i always wondered why -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Mar 27 2007, 02:07 PM
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GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Mar 27 2007, 03:00 PM) I think I understand what you are saying, but just to clarify whats 101ism? 101ism is where someone takes a freshman or introductory class, and suddenly thinks they have a masters in the subject -------------------- QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Mar 27 2007, 02:08 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
maybe because the passion for debating is enjoyed by people of all political stances?
also, philosophy is a good degree to have for those wanting to go to law school. QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Mar 27 2007, 03:07 PM) 101ism is where someone takes a freshman or introductory class, and suddenly thinks they have a masters in the subject ok thats what I thought. was just making sure |
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Mar 27 2007, 02:09 PM
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GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
no problem
-------------------- QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Mar 27 2007, 02:16 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
conservatives in philosophy - i always felt it was like an anarchist taking a political philosophy class and constantly turning every discussion into support for anarchy. you just cant do it. my "cool unshowered kids group" called those types of people annoying
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