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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Mar 4 2007, 11:39 PM)  Moot point, this is not a democracy. Thank you Dr. Mayer...  Comparing me to a Ph.D in political science? Ok, works for me.  We are a democracy, in its modern definition (which incorporates points from both a republic and a democracy, as I stated before). The definition that I go by is that of Robert Dahl's "On Democracy." Read it sometime, might open your eyes a bit. -------------------- |
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Mar 5 2007, 12:24 AM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Mar 5 2007, 12:16 AM) Being the most powerful does not always equate to being the best. Don't get me wrong, I like living in America, but some things about this nation piss me off. World Imperialism is fun... Btw, the GDP of the European Union is about the same as the United States... The GDP, in comparison of a union of sovereign nations versus a union of states, is indeed very close (around $13 trillion each). The REAL difference is the GDP per capita: EU = $29,300 // U.S. = $43,500 ::EDIT:: Sources- https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/ee.html https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/us.html This post has been edited by Psykopath: Mar 5 2007, 12:25 AM -------------------- |
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Mar 5 2007, 07:29 AM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER  Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
all of this will be moot points when you're all eaten alive by zombies
--------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Mar 5 2007, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Mar 5 2007, 12:16 AM) Being the most powerful does not always equate to being the best. Don't get me wrong, I like living in America, but some things about this nation piss me off. right, but would things be better in another nation? if our system isn't the best (while obviously not perfect) then what system is? and how the hell can anyone compare the european union to the united states straight up? one is a collection of countries, the other is one country... |
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Mar 5 2007, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Mar 5 2007, 12:24 AM) The GDP, in comparison of a union of sovereign nations versus a union of states, is indeed very close (around $13 trillion each). The REAL difference is the GDP per capita: EU = $29,300 // U.S. = $43,500 ::EDIT:: Sources- https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/ee.html https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/us.html I'd argue that in the EU, there's a more equitable distribution of that money though. -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM) Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Mar 5 2007, 03:31 PM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 5 2007, 10:06 AM) right, but would things be better in another nation? if our system isn't the best (while obviously not perfect) then what system is? and how the hell can anyone compare the european union to the united states straight up? one is a collection of countries, the other is one country... Technically speaking the United States is a collection of States but today they are more like territories EDIT: I don't think the United States is a bad place to live, I just think it could be better with things like medical insurance for all citizens, an end to tax cuts for the rich, etc. QUOTE The definition that I go by is that of Robert Dahl's "On Democracy." Read it sometime, might open your eyes a bit. Propaganda, YOU need to open your eyes Zach, I hope you know I am fucking with you This post has been edited by Dr. Gonzo: Mar 5 2007, 03:36 PM -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Mar 5 2007, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Mar 5 2007, 03:31 PM) Technically speaking the United States is a collection of States but today they are more like territories EDIT: I don't think the United States is a bad place to live, I just think it could be better with things like medical insurance for all citizens, an end to tax cuts for the rich, etc. Propaganda, YOU need to open your eyes Zach, I hope you know I am fucking with you meh, i still don't see how tax cuts to the rich is a bad thing. there are a lot of wealthy people who pay more to the government in taxes than the average american even makes every year, yet aren't able to receive many of the same benefits. upon death, their heirs are also taxed out the ass. 35% of $350k is a hell of a lot more money than 25% of $35k (and yes, i'm fully aware that this isn't how it's calculated, but it's damn near close), and the latter is eligible for more government benefits. so if anything, middle- and lower-class taxpayers should pay more taxes. just my two cents. i'll never support a social welfare system, especially after living in texas. |
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Mar 5 2007, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Mar 5 2007, 03:31 PM) Technically speaking the United States is a collection of States but today they are more like territories technically speaking, the united states is a country, the european union is not. so comparing them is pointless |
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Mar 5 2007, 05:27 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Mar 5 2007, 03:31 PM) Propaganda, YOU need to open your eyes Zach, I hope you know I am fucking with you NOT propoganda...it's a great book! And yes, I know you are. =P -------------------- |
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Mar 5 2007, 05:55 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Mar 5 2007, 04:17 PM) meh, i still don't see how tax cuts to the rich is a bad thing. there are a lot of wealthy people who pay more to the government in taxes than the average american even makes every year, yet aren't able to receive many of the same benefits. upon death, their heirs are also taxed out the ass. 35% of $350k is a hell of a lot more money than 25% of $35k (and yes, i'm fully aware that this isn't how it's calculated, but it's damn near close), and the latter is eligible for more government benefits. so if anything, middle- and lower-class taxpayers should pay more taxes. just my two cents. i'll never support a social welfare system, especially after living in texas. Coming from the lower class, I hate the rich. Just my two cents. I can not and will not ever relate to them, unless of course I become rich. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Mar 5 2007, 05:56 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Mar 5 2007, 04:19 PM) technically speaking, the united states is a country, the european union is not. so comparing them is pointless Comparing them is not pointless per se. While the European Union is a weak union it is still a union... -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Mar 5 2007, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Mar 5 2007, 05:55 PM) Coming from the lower class, I hate the rich. Just my two cents. I can not and will not ever relate to them, unless of course I become rich.  im helping your river. when youve got enough for the boat i can steer it to the other side of the tracks for you. -------------------- 32-bit whore
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Mar 5 2007, 06:03 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
Ummm Whatever, I was not trying to throw a pity party...
If you make more you should have to contribute more This post has been edited by Dr. Gonzo: Mar 5 2007, 06:04 PM -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Mar 5 2007, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Mar 5 2007, 06:00 PM) im helping your river. when youve got enough for the boat i can steer it to the other side of the tracks for you. don't be hatin'!!!   
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Mar 5 2007, 06:22 PM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
When you only make 25k a year, taxes hurt a lot more.
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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