 Male activists want 'say' in unplanned pregnancy, No money for you bitch |
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| Male activists want 'say' in unplanned pregnancy, No money for you bitch |
 Mar 9 2006, 01:57 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9  |
Dogmeat, what the hell does that have to do with anything? This isn't about banning women from having abortions...
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Mar 9 2006, 01:59 PM
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 DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
Dammit dammit dammit! There I go again! I don't even bother to read the initial post and make a stupid comment!
*DOH* 
-------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Mar 9 2006, 02:02 PM
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 fuck you! Group: Members Posts: 641 Joined: 22-February 06 From: fuck you! Member No.: 19 |
QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Mar 9 2006, 01:55 PM) Any guy who wants to make a stupid bitch he stuck his cock in have a kid she doesn't want is just asking to make his life a living fucking hell. Because we all know damned good and well the stupid cunt-bitch is gonna lie her ass off in court about how he beats her so she gets custody of the kid she wanted dead so he'll be financially strapped to her for 18 years as payback for not letting her murder her own baby. please, don't procreate. we're begging you. -------------------- only here to talk sports occationally
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Mar 9 2006, 02:18 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
QUOTE (Throwdown @ Mar 9 2006, 01:02 PM) please, don't procreate. we're begging you. We should put together a Techsans fund to get him a vasectomy. Or just stick him in a room with Rocky and a broken beer bottle. -------------------- |
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Mar 9 2006, 02:22 PM
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fuck you! Group: Members Posts: 641 Joined: 22-February 06 From: fuck you! Member No.: 19 |
QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Mar 9 2006, 02:18 PM) We should put together a Techsans fund to get him a vasectomy. Or just stick him in a room with Rocky and a broken beer bottle. setting up the paypal account as we speak -------------------- only here to talk sports occationally
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Mar 9 2006, 02:33 PM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
hope it passes
still sad though... kids nowadays are gettin the shaft when it comes to parents |
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Mar 9 2006, 04:45 PM
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 Formerly known as Ctex Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 23 |
QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Mar 9 2006, 11:52 AM) It is a whole helluva lot easier for the father of the child to walk away than it is for a mother who carried the child for 9 months and went through all the hormonal stuff that goes along with childbearing. Adoption? Yeah right. Hold your child in your arms for the first time and then let's see you give it up. Some could. And some do. But for the majority of people, there is a really strong bond between parent and child. And as abortion is concerned, abortion is not an issue men should have any say on. We will never have to go through that, and thus we'll never really know what goes on afterwards. I have met people who have had abortions that are really emotionally messed up afterwards. So saying "hey, I got you pregnant, get an abortion or I'm leaving" isn't very fair. To make a long story short, letting men take equal risk (unprotected or not protected enough sex) and not have to bare any of the burden is incredibly unfair. Thank you Billy. I agree. If this passes, what consequence will a man have to face for making the same mistake the woman did? In the end, it's the child that gets screwed over. |
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Mar 9 2006, 04:48 PM
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Formerly known as Ctex Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 23 |
QUOTE (nickluto @ Mar 9 2006, 12:45 PM) In my opinion, if I wear a love glove, that's me saying "hey, i dont wanna have a kid, im taking all possible preventative measures on my end to make sure that doesnt happen" The only way to guarantee you won't have a kid is to not have sex or get a vasectomy. |
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Mar 9 2006, 05:07 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 170 Joined: 26-February 06 Member No.: 83 |
QUOTE (Junsui @ Mar 9 2006, 04:48 PM) The only way to guarantee you won't have a kid is to not have sex or get a vasectomy. vasectemy isnt always an option. you could say if a woman didnt want to have a kid she could get her tubes tied and all abortions should be illegal by following your same thought. |
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Mar 9 2006, 08:26 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 2-March 06 Member No.: 103 |
I'M THE JUGGERNAUT BITCHHHHHHHHHH!!!
MY SUIT IS SO TIGHT!! |
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Mar 9 2006, 08:26 PM
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Formerly known as Ctex Group: Members Posts: 294 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 23 |
QUOTE (hodge @ Mar 9 2006, 05:07 PM) vasectemy isnt always an option. you could say if a woman didnt want to have a kid she could get her tubes tied and all abortions should be illegal by following your same thought. True and maybe they should. I don't think a lot of people in this world should be reproducing. Also a vasectomy is an easier operation than a hysterectomy. |
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Mar 9 2006, 08:33 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 2-March 06 Member No.: 103 |
QUOTE (Junsui @ Mar 9 2006, 08:26 PM) True and maybe they should. I don't think a lot of people in this world should be reproducing. Also a vasectomy is an easier operation than a hysterectomy. It is easier and can be reversed. Its the king of condoms too. |
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Mar 10 2006, 12:26 AM
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 START THE REACTOR! Group: Members Posts: 874 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 52 |
Vacetomies arent 100% either, there are people who have had them and still gotten their girls pregnant.
I have to agree with the fact that If you have sex with someone, you should be ready for anything that might pop out 9 months later, But I also agree with the fact that if you take as many preventative measures as possible and you still get her pregnant you should be able to argue that you shouldn't have to pay. I suppose the fact of the case should be giving the guy a right to deny child support based on the circumstances of each case, not just saying that if a guy says "Im not paying" then they dont have to. Things like condom use + Birth Control and talking with the girl about what they will do in case of a pregnancy should be standard procedure for this stuff. If she says that she will get an abortion if she gets pregant and then backs out of that if it happens, the guy should not be financially responsible because the two people came to an agreement. However, if you throw caution to the wind and just do everything on a whim you should face the full force of a baby. -------------------- FUCK YOU
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Mar 10 2006, 12:29 AM
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 From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (rabble @ Mar 10 2006, 12:26 AM) Vacetomies arent 100% either, there are people who have had them and still gotten their girls pregnant. I have to agree with the fact that If you have sex with someone, you should be ready for anything that might pop out 9 months later, But I also agree with the fact that if you take as many preventative measures as possible and you still get her pregnant you should be able to argue that you shouldn't have to pay. ... So you wore a jimmy hat that didn't work. This isn't your fault. So then it must be hers? -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM)  Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Mar 10 2006, 12:38 AM
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START THE REACTOR! Group: Members Posts: 874 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 52 |
QUOTE (pebkac @ Mar 10 2006, 12:29 AM) ... So you wore a jimmy hat that didn't work. This isn't your fault. So then it must be hers? did you even read the bottom part? You still need to talk about the "What if" situation with your partner. And no, its not her fault if the condom breaks, but its not His either. That leaves them on equal ground for what happens next. If he tells her to get an abortion and she refuses, then that child is on her, not him. However nowhere did I say that all guys should be exempt from paying child support, I said it should be taken on a case by case basis so that the people who took all precausions can be protected from something they worked to prevent and the people who throw their penis around are stuck with an unwanted child. If you know beforehand that she wont get an abortion then you shouldnt put it in her, if she says "Ill get an abortion if it happens" and then she comes back and says she wont, then its not his fault. -------------------- FUCK YOU
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