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[chook]

People are worried about the rate of change of average earth temp. I know in the 1800's europe spewed tons of hydrocarbons into the atmosphere and raised the local temp. I have no reliable data or experience in this area.

[The Fanatic]

yeah, thats kinda what I was thinking about. I think we are worrying ourselves WAY too much. Yeah, we need to treat our planet better, but man this is getting out of hand with the fighting back and forth over global warming and the ozone layer

Yeah, the warming that is taking place could be a natural occurrence. Then again, I think it is better to be safe than sorry. And if the word global warming was not such a big deal, why then did they feel the need to omit/change the word?

[Mommy]

Yeah, the warming that is taking place could be a natural occurrence. Then again, I think it is better to be safe than sorry. And if the word global warming was not such a big deal, why then did they feel the need to omit/change the word?

Yeah, better be safe than sorry, but Im not going to stop using hair spray because it hurts the ozone (not that that applies to me because I dont use aerosol hairspray, but still). The precautions we should be taking are things like not dumping shit in the oceans, lakes, and rivers or chopping down the rainforest. You know? stuff that is significant that we could stop but chose not to.



Additionally (not directed at you Spivey), but what have any of you done to alter your lifestyles for the betterment of the planet? I would like to know. I mean, are you all just bitching again without taking action or do you actually make efforts to conserve this planet's resources? Inquiring minds want to know

[Testm0nkey]

global warming is highly speed up due to air pollution. thats common knowledge and the affect is great

i do my part by recycling, i cant do much about what car i drive other than to drive as little as possible, i use environmentally safe detergents, cleaners, and hygiene products and items made from recycleables. i try to conserve energy as much as i can which also relates to my appliances and what detergents i use. i vote for environomentally specific propositions i support and candidates whom i believe will work towards these.

[Seussninja]

Being environmentally conscious in Lubbock is mighty difficult for many reasons.

1. We don't have a local recycling plant, all our recyclables are SHIPPED by TRUCK to DALLAS. Which in of itself produces a shitload of pollutants.

2. The public transportation in this city is a joke. If you do not own a car you cannot get anywhere. period.

3. The city is so shittily designed that walking anywhere is dangerous and unheard of.

4. Being a conservative and hick town, don't expect any help from your neighbors when you ask them to help you clean up trash around your apartment complex/neighborhood etc. or anything to that effect.


My point is that many cities don't even make a conscious effort to provide these sorts of things for their citizens, so how can citizens preform any improvements without any tools with which to do them? I'm thinking in a smaller town like Lubbock it would have to be some sort of privately funded endeavor.

[Testm0nkey]

i find lubbock very clean. thats the first thing my parents always say when they come here. i dont know about lubbock not having a recycling center closer than dallas but if its not a recycling center than its a massive recycling collection warehouse on ash avenue. recycling even after having it shipped somewhere still helps

[Seussninja]

i find lubbock very clean. thats the first thing my parents always say when they come here. i dont know about lubbock not having a recycling center closer than dallas but if its not a recycling center than its a massive recycling collection warehouse on ash avenue. recycling even after having it shipped somewhere still helps

I never said our city wasn't clean. It's one of the cleanest (as far as air quality is concerned) in the nation but that also has a lot to do with our environment. High winds and no elevation means any pollution we produce is just blown away and left to its own devices.

[Spectatrix]

Well right now I don't have any choice but to drive just about everywhere. I have a freakin' 40-minute commute to work and there isn't anything I can do about that. However, once I get a real job, I hope to find an apartment complex located such that I could bike to work, grocery stores, etc. to get more exercise and cut down on pollution.

I really need to get into recycling too.

[Mommy]

I drive everywhere. I dont ever cut back driving. First off, I work 30 minutes from my apt. Then, to get to my classes at UT, its about another hour drive. I drive like 2 hours a day. I'll be honest: the environment has never crossed my mind and never will while Im driving. We dont live in fuckin villages anymore. Driving is somewhat of a necessity.

[chook]

i drive a pos motorcycle. 50 mpg

[Testm0nkey]

in the future id like to live in a city thats more pedestrian friendly in their city planning. even in austin i plan to live near campus for grad school if i end up there. i enjoyed being able to ride my bike to campus but i cant help having to move.
if i was awesome and got to tell my parents i wanted a car and theyd get me one id ask for either a hybrid, an alternative fuel, or a golf gti higher fuel efficiency automobile. i think itll be awhile before my dad gives his approval to the current hybrid vehicles

[Dogmeat]

Take your pick: No greenhouse gasses, or nukes in the hands of islamic radicals.

I'll take greenhouses for 1000 alex@!

[Psykopath]

Take your pick: No greenhouse gasses, or nukes in the hands of islamic radicals.

I'll take greenhouses for 1000 alex@!

Explain this logic...

[griseyeux]

I thought this thread was going to be about the wonderful acheivements of furry vaginas.....color me disappointed





























*sarcasm*

[Dogmeat]

Explain this logic...

The only technologically feasable solution to stop wide-scale production of greenhouse gasses is getting rid of all the coal-fired power plants in the world. Coal-fired power plants are responsible for over half of the greenhouses produced by man. Why do we use coal? Because it's dirt cheap, and the waste is "easier" to deal with than that of nuclear byproducts from a nuclear plant.

However, we all know good and well that the grade of fuel required for sustainable nuclear power generation can also relativley easily be transformed into nuclear fuel for bombs.

Hence forth, the USs' efforts to do everything humanly possible to keep nuclear power generation out of piss ant countries like north korea and Iran. It's pretty much a given that if a country has the capability to produce sustainable nuclear power, they can probably find some way to come up with a bomb.

However, nuclear power COULD be the world's answer to global warming. It's the only feasable power source that can drive a hydrogen economy.

The problem? As I stated above, rogue states claiming they want civilian nuclear power generation (yeah right) and replacing all of our power generation from coal to nuclear will mean we're generating a SHITLOAD of radioactive waste. So we'll be saving the atmosphere but we'll be degrading our groundwater and god only knows what else as well as giving islamic extremists more capability to produce nuclear bombs.

hence why at the present juncture in time I'll take greenhouse gasses for 1000 alex!

heh



....perhaps a better idea would be to just get Christine to perfect nuclear fusion with her mAD pHAT pHyZiiiiX sKILLz