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Jan 31 2007, 01:00 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/b....xml&coll=1
QUOTE According to a UCS survey whose findings were presented to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, more than 40 percent of the 279 scientists who responded said their work had been edited to more closely reflect the administration's position on climate change. Well, at least he's not ignoring science anymore. He's just making science say what he wants it to say. -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Jan 31 2007, 02:27 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
yay for a government to seriously mislead people for money
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Jan 31 2007, 02:31 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
I hate to bring 1984 into discussion for fear of being the spreader of conspiracy theory, but this reminds me of engsoc in 1984. In the book, they controlled the news and most importantly changed history. 40 percent is a lot of scientists. This is blatant propaganda
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Jan 31 2007, 02:49 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I trust a bunch of silly conservationist scientists who have their own agenda about as much as I trust Bush... in other words, I dont really think that the President would do that. I more think that these scientists are nutballs. Additionally, if they were in fact changed, why are we so quick to blame Bush instead of blaming someone in his administration who could have done this without Bush knowing. But, America needs a good scapegoat so it might as well be Bush.
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Jan 31 2007, 02:55 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
Naturally, I don't think Bush changed these documents himself. He lacks the expertise and the time to be concerned with such things. However, I am sure that someone high up in the administration, congress, etc had a hand in it. Being a scapegoat is part of the presidency. Presidents have virtually NO control over the economy. Yet, they get blamed or credited for a good economy. Classic example is president Clinton taking the credit for the booming economy of the mid to later 90's. In reality, he had virtually no control or impact on the economy himself.
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Jan 31 2007, 03:14 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
i dont think anyone believes bush is personally sitting in his office all hours of the night sweating over paperwork of any kind
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Jan 31 2007, 03:16 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
bush is the treasurer of my G.I. Joe action figure fan club
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Jan 31 2007, 03:34 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I just have major beef blaming every problem in this country on Bush. Our govt has a lot of corrupt people. Just because Bush is the President doesnt mean he is the ring leader/ mob boss/ master magician
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Jan 31 2007, 03:36 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
thats not saying a good thing about him either. id want a president to know what the hell was going on in HIS administration and be able to control it
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Jan 31 2007, 03:41 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
You are right, however the president is assumed to be the most powerful political figure in America, if not the world. Plus, presidents have a lot more power then they had say fifty years ago. Presidents practically set the agenda for congress, send plans for the annual U.S. budget, send the military anyone in the world with the stroke of a pen, and ultimately destroy the world with Nuclear weapons (the president and the president alone has this ultimate power). He is both the ceremonial and political leader of the United States. He is the queen and prime minister of england wrapped up in one happy partisan box.
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Jan 31 2007, 04:15 PM
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![]() monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/b....xml&coll=1 Well, at least he's not ignoring science anymore. He's just making science say what he wants it to say. right, and these scientists just took the millions of dollars in grant money and wasted years of research time instead of trying to expose what they were allegedly asked to do. they're total fucking hypocrites. it's like complaining your food was gross after you ate everything. |
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Jan 31 2007, 04:19 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
No, millions of dollars of research money was wasted because of propaganda purposes IE the white house
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Jan 31 2007, 04:21 PM
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![]() monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
i don't see how getting rid of the words "global warming" is propaganda. there are a lot of terms that are not in common usage today that were 40 years ago.
some people believe we're just in a mild part of an ice age, as melting and re-freezing of the planet has happened countless times in the past. |
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Jan 31 2007, 04:38 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
some people believe we're just in a mild part of an ice age, as melting and re-freezing of the planet has happened countless times in the past. yeah, thats kinda what I was thinking about. I think we are worrying ourselves WAY too much. Yeah, we need to treat our planet better, but man this is getting out of hand with the fighting back and forth over global warming and the ozone layer |
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Jan 31 2007, 07:52 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
uh i think it should be way more of a priority then it is. its no longer about how our grandchildren's lives will be its affecting our own. in 20 years i dont want my water bill to be 100bucks a month and people syphoning my gas in the middle of the night. not to mention its getting too hot already and the crazy changing extreme weather isnt fun
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