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Jan 2 2007, 07:22 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1981688,00.html
QUOTE The proposed legislation from the Democrats includes: · Ethics reform, with a ban on gifts from lobbyists to congressmen and other controls; · A rise in the federal minimum wage for the first time in a decade from $5.15 to $7.25 an hour; · An end to the Bush administration's restrictions on stem cell research; · Implementation of the recommendations of the commission on the 9/11 terror attacks; · A plan for the federal government to negotiate cheaper prices for prescription drugs; · And the halving of interest rates on student loans. I suppose the minimum wage thing is debatable, but I like most of the stuff on the agenda (although I really don't know much about the 9/11 committee's recommendations. I do like the last one the best though. Another interesting part... QUOTE In a much-anticipated speech, Mr Bush is expected to reveal his new strategy on the war as early as next week, amid widespread speculation that he intends to bolster the US presence in Iraq in the short term by an additional 30,000 troops. That troop "surge" and a White House request for an additional $100bn (£51bn) to pay for the war this year are expected to encounter strong opposition from a previously supportive Congress. This should turn out to be interesting. Wonder what the Dems are going to do if Bush does decide to try a surge. -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Jan 3 2007, 09:55 AM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
I think that a troop increase would help but I fear it may be too little, too late.
A plan for cheaper prescription drugs? Yeah, I can see the insurance companies letting that happen. The only way this is going to happen is if the entire healthcare system is reevaluated and slowly reformed. Everyone knows my feelings on the minimum wage increase. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jan 3 2007, 11:31 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
A plan for cheaper prescription drugs? Yeah, I can see the insurance companies letting that happen. are you being sarcastic? (can't tell) i'd think insurance companies would welcome cheaper drugs... i don't really know the details of the 'plan' but i think this is something just about every politician who's ever run for office says in their campaign, so i'll remain a little skeptical on it. |
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Jan 5 2007, 10:30 AM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
Instead of lower prescription drug prices, congress needs to fix the healthcare system. An example would be providing a means for persons without insurance to obtain it.
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Jan 5 2007, 11:12 AM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
I'd agree, but I doubt that'll happen with this Congress. There'd have to be some major compromises to get the thing by Bush.
-------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Jan 5 2007, 05:27 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
That is why we need a new president
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Jan 6 2007, 04:46 AM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
I'd agree, but that probably won't happen within the next two years.
-------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Jan 6 2007, 11:15 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 16 |
Finally.
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Jan 6 2007, 01:18 PM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
Proposals.
MORE LIKE BULLSHIT. I swear the only thing they do in congress is have one massive orgy. They never get anything done. -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Jan 6 2007, 08:37 PM
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Corrupting the youth of America Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 12-May 06 From: Alice, TX Member No.: 176 |
I swear the only thing they do in congress is have one massive orgy. They never get anything done. alright everybody BACK TO THE PILE!
-------------------- Brandon....you're the reason I'm pro-choice.
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Jan 7 2007, 08:33 PM
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![]() monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
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Jan 8 2007, 09:46 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
The Democratic Agenda:
*Shut off as much oil and gas exploration in the continental US as possible, driving prices through the roof all the while pandering more votes from idiot fuckheads in california and the east coast claiming you're saving the environment whilst pumping trillions more dollars into terrorist states economies because you know damned good and well nobody in this country is gonna stop driving their SUV's ..... and then of course blame the whole fucking thing on the previous Republican congress and "big oil". *Claim you're the 'Party of the People' while your bigtime hollywood donors in the RIAA and MPAA file lawsuits and use blatant terror tactics to illegally prosecute and punish people for downloading songs *Pull the same thing Lynden B. Johnson did in the Vietnam war and don't fight it to win it. Johnson haulted the bombing of North Vietnam and we were kicking the shit out of them, the current crop of Democrats will reduce troop levels making them even more insuficient instead of actually saying "fuck being politically correct" in the eyes of the muslim world and WINNING the fucking war already like Bush would like to do. *Act like you all aren't as corrupt of sleaze bags as the Republican majority you just replaced. -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Jan 9 2007, 05:49 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
ZING!
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Jan 9 2007, 06:37 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 16 |
*Pull the same thing Lynden B. Johnson did in the Vietnam war and don't fight it to win it. Johnson haulted the bombing of North Vietnam and we were kicking the shit out of them, the current crop of Democrats will reduce troop levels making them even more insuficient instead of actually saying "fuck being politically correct" in the eyes of the muslim world and WINNING the fucking war already like Bush would like to do. I'm not disagreeing with the principle of this piece - that the United States did not fight the Vietnam Conflict as if they wanted to win it - but I do feel the need to correct a couple of things. A) The United States assumed full responsibility for supporting the South Vietnamese Army under Dwight Eisenhower, a Republican. C) Richard Nixon resumed bombing North Vietnam in 1972, late into his first term as President; had he wanted to, or if it would have made a difference, he could have resumed bombing of North Vietnam immediately after taking office in 1969. D) The United States was HARDLY "kicking the shit" out of the North Vietnamese in 1968. While America was victorious in pretty much every large-scale conventional battle during the Vietnam Conflict, the Vietnamese were very successful with guerrilla raids and clashes between individual units. |
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Jan 9 2007, 06:54 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
D) The United States was HARDLY "kicking the shit" out of the North Vietnamese in 1968. While America was victorious in pretty much every large-scale conventional battle during the Vietnam Conflict, the Vietnamese were very successful with guerrilla raids and clashes between individual units. The men who were over there fighting at that point in time would beg to differ I'd immagine .... -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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