 man has google searches used against him in court |
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| man has google searches used against him in court |
 Dec 27 2006, 10:34 AM
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http://news.com.com/Police%2Bblotter%2BGoo...html?tag=cd.top
all the more reason to use scroogle: http://www.scroogle.org/ |
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Dec 27 2006, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (Overlord @ Dec 27 2006, 10:34 AM)  http://news.com.com/Police%2Bblotter%2BGoo...html?tag=cd.top all the more reason to use scroogle: http://www.scroogle.org/ Holy crap -------------------- I've got Lance in my pants
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Dec 27 2006, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE (Overlord @ Dec 27 2006, 10:34 AM) http://news.com.com/Police%2Bblotter%2BGoo...html?tag=cd.top all the more reason to use scroogle: http://www.scroogle.org/ Or, all the more reason not to break the law... -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Dec 27 2006, 02:31 PM
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true. and in this instance it's fine...so it seems.
but then my thoughts strayed to other scenrarios...what if in a divorce hearing, the wife's attorney used her husband's google searches of "big tits" or "angelina jolie" something to defame his character that he was a reprobate and sway the judge in her favor? what if you were held accountable for everything you've ever googled? a quick check on my recent searches brings up somewhat disturbing stuff if taken out of context. I just googled "mexico purse" because I was looking for a cheesy pic to make fun of someone... what is the slippery slope on this? |
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Dec 27 2006, 03:45 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (cupcake @ Dec 27 2006, 02:31 PM) true. and in this instance it's fine...so it seems. but then my thoughts strayed to other scenrarios...what if in a divorce hearing, the wife's attorney used her husband's google searches of "big tits" or "angelina jolie" something to defame his character that he was a reprobate and sway the judge in her favor? what if you were held accountable for everything you've ever googled? a quick check on my recent searches brings up somewhat disturbing stuff if taken out of context. I just googled "mexico purse" because I was looking for a cheesy pic to make fun of someone... what is the slippery slope on this? I agree, but I think there are a lot of issues that need to be considered. For one, how was the search history acquired? Was it from his cache on his browser? If so, then I have no problem with it. If Google turned over the records then I have a big problem with it. If the ISP turned over the HTTP requests, then I have a slight problem with it. When I will start getting concerned is when the government is asking for things to be turned over that we expect to be private (encrypted transactions, skype conversations, etc.) -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Dec 27 2006, 05:48 PM
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I expect my google searches to be private.
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Dec 27 2006, 05:54 PM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (Overlord @ Dec 27 2006, 05:48 PM) I expect my google searches to be private. "If you dont have expectations, you wont be disappointed" -me |
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Dec 27 2006, 05:55 PM
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Because of the relationship you're in I can see why you adopted that philosophy.
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Dec 27 2006, 06:35 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (Overlord @ Dec 27 2006, 05:55 PM) Because of the relationship you're in I can see why you adopted that philosophy. that isnt my philosophy... thats just the quote I use when people bitch about privacy expectations. If a company or the government wants to use "private" information to put criminals behind bars then I dont really care. If you dont do anything wrong, then you dont have anything to worry about. In my opinion, there are a lot more important things to worry about then ones own idea of what personal freedom should be. Im sorry but Americans shouldnt really bitch so much about the government when there are children in Africa dying of aids because they were raped. When will you people start to realize that life here in America is more than some people could ever dream of? |
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Dec 27 2006, 07:28 PM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE Court documents are ambiguous and don't reveal how the FBI discovered his search terms. how do you know the search information was provided by google? it also doesn't look like they were a key piece of evidence... just supportive mainly. they siezed his computer with a search warrant and I'm sure they found all they needed to know from that. |
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Dec 27 2006, 10:22 PM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER  Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Dec 27 2006, 06:35 PM) that isnt my philosophy... thats just the quote I use when people bitch about privacy expectations. If a company or the government wants to use "private" information to put criminals behind bars then I dont really care. If you dont do anything wrong, then you dont have anything to worry about. In my opinion, there are a lot more important things to worry about then ones own idea of what personal freedom should be. Im sorry but Americans shouldnt really bitch so much about the government when there are children in Africa dying of aids because they were raped. When will you people start to realize that life here in America is more than some people could ever dream of? these little freedoms are what make things better for us in America. so yea, they take a bit here, take a bit there. eventually we are just as oppressed as the 3rd world countries. look at how much freedom as citizens we have lost compared to 30 years ago, 50, and further? if we don't bitch and maintain those freedoms, we WILL be the children with AIDS because they were raped. you have to work and fight for those freedoms, cunt. --------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM) but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Dec 27 2006, 10:29 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
you little cunts need to stop buying tampons, wake up, smell the coffee, and realize that there are a lot of things we could go WAAAAAAAAAH about but not everything can can be a rose petal on our tushy
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Dec 28 2006, 12:46 AM
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i've never had a rose petal on my tushy wonder what that's like... -------------------- |
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Dec 28 2006, 02:43 AM
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 Retired Funk-bringer Group: Moderators Posts: 2,656 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas Member No.: 14 |
QUOTE (Overlord @ Dec 27 2006, 05:55 PM) Because of the relationship you're in I can see why you adopted that philosophy. ZING -------------------- WAIT. I'm not finished.
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Dec 28 2006, 02:43 AM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
In this case, the "violation" of privacy was ok imo, because the police obtained a search warrant. The second they obtained that warrant, the hacker lost his privacy. They had the authority to search his computer, house, even phone records.... why not google searches? They were made on his computer, which was his property...
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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