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post Nov 20 2006, 07:42 PM
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http://www.tmz.com/2006/11/20/kramers-raci...caught-on-tape/

Shouldn't have done it, shouldn't have been heckled... Sad turn of events.


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post Nov 20 2006, 08:40 PM
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I love how that article goes into detail what kramer said but nicely left out what started it. And I love how disguisted people are that kramer used all these racial slurs yet no one cares that black dude also used them. "Cracker" "fucking white boy" .... hrmmm.

I think they need to get over it already. Either that or racial slurs against whites also need to be taboo.


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post Nov 20 2006, 08:51 PM
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I love how that article goes into detail what kramer said but nicely left out what started it. And I love how disguisted people are that kramer used all these racial slurs yet no one cares that black dude also used them. "Cracker" "fucking white boy" .... hrmmm.

I think they need to get over it already. Either that or racial slurs against whites also need to be taboo.

You'd have to be an idiot to think that "cracker" and "white boy" are remotely close to the word "nigger." One happens to be the term used to for a people who were considered less than human (what was the population law: 1/3 of a man for each slave that is owned towards the state population count ... amount of congressmen)

Should it be used by other black men to call each other? no, but it also holds a great racial consequence when used recklessly or maliciously
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post Nov 20 2006, 08:55 PM
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so was the affectionate term of 'boy' to adult slave males.

should that be forbidden as well?


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post Nov 20 2006, 08:58 PM
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Ok, reading some of the comments someone who claims to have been there says this:

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I was there and those guys were calling him cracker. That part is not on the video.

If someone calls you a cracker, you have every right to call them whatever you want.


And to seth:

I don't give a shit what that term meant 300 GOD DAMN years ago. As of today, cracker is equivalent to nigger. Both are equally held as racial slanders. Society changes in time and language does as well. After all, it makes no sense to call white people crackers when we don't use whips nor own slaves. Get out of the past. It is 100% used in a degrading fashion. Just like the term nigger.


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QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Nov 20 2006, 08:58 PM) *
Ok, reading some of the comments someone who claims to have been there says this:
And to seth:

I don't give a shit what that term meant 300 GOD DAMN years ago. As of today, cracker is equivalent to nigger. Both are equally held as racial slanders. Society changes in time and language does as well. After all, it makes no sense to call white people crackers when we don't use whips nor own slaves. Get out of the past. It is 100% used in a degrading fashion. Just like the term nigger.

As i said lol
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post Nov 20 2006, 09:14 PM
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I'd also like to add that this server sucks.


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post Nov 20 2006, 09:19 PM
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the youtube video of this is posted in asdf

hes the one that went over the line because he started doing that because a black man was talking in the audience, not necessarily heckling. so yes it was uncalled for. not only was an audience member being singled out (some clubs dont allow comedians to do this) but it was in a horrible way. "50 years ago you would have been hanging" something to that affect? pretty bad.
yes black comedians talk about white people this and white people that but honestly even on the horrible BET nights i havent heard something like that
for emphasis it wasnt just a joke in a line of jokes it was in reference to an audience member
ive also heard that he regularly does this, its his bit. i dont know if thats true or not but i heard it from a few people


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post Nov 20 2006, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Nov 20 2006, 08:58 PM) *
Ok, reading some of the comments someone who claims to have been there says this:
And to seth:

I don't give a shit what that term meant 300 GOD DAMN years ago. As of today, cracker is equivalent to nigger. Both are equally held as racial slanders. Society changes in time and language does as well. After all, it makes no sense to call white people crackers when we don't use whips nor own slaves. Get out of the past. It is 100% used in a degrading fashion. Just like the term nigger.


White people were also not slaves


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post Nov 20 2006, 10:24 PM
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Everyone's a little bit racist sometimes...

This post has been edited by Spectatrix: Nov 20 2006, 10:27 PM


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post Nov 20 2006, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Nov 20 2006, 10:10 PM) *
White people were also not slaves


I assume this is sarcasm.

edit: In case you're not, here's some education:

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/whtslav.htm


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That too. I <3 Avenue Q.


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post Nov 21 2006, 02:52 AM
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QUOTE (Renegadepeon @ Nov 20 2006, 10:27 PM) *
I assume this is sarcasm.

edit: In case you're not, here's some education:

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/whtslav.htm


American slavery is closer to the 20th century. It is still semi fresh in memory...

dont forget about the civil rights movement, you just cant go around calling people nigger. And if he called them niggers then they sure as hell eserve to call him cracker!

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post Nov 21 2006, 04:09 AM
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heh, I would have called him a pineapple.

Anyhow, this whole episode is reminiscent of Andy Kaufman.
The so-called "nigger" is really a writer for Richards.
Welcome to 1975, maybe.

Edit:

See Michael Richards' work on "Fridays" during the Kaufman incident.

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