Is getting drunk overrated? Options

[Seussninja]

HELL TO THE NO

[Divergent Realit...]

RUT TO THA RO?!?!

[The Fanatic]

Im sure weed is illegal because having a country full of lazy, doped up retards would cause major problems.

Weed is illegal because America hates black and mexican people


well, that was the original reason at least...

This post has been edited by Dr. Gonzo: Nov 19 2006, 03:56 AM

[The Fanatic]

[TetraGrammaton C...]

I will first ask you to forgive me, but my familiarity with the subject matter inclines me to comment.

On the subject of "getting drunk:" To have a discourse, we must establish some mutually agreeable definition for this ascribed level of consumption. I would consider "drunk" to be around the level at which notable decline is observed in sensory perception and motor skills. Is it overrated? What rating is it currently at?
From what I have observed, in our society many college-aged persons feel that this level of intoxication is a necessity. For what cause remains debatable. Some drink down their feelings, others their actions. Some feel that it is a carefree abandonment from the required stresses of everyday life. Others just consider it "having fun." Is this level of intoxication more worthy if it achieves a goal that the imbiber is trying to achieve? Is it more acceptable or expected to "get drunk" at certain times, rather than others? If so, what does that intuitively say about drinking? If we determine drunkenness as relative to a person's philosophy on drinking, then could it ever be "overrated" or does it remain at the personal level?

On the subject of the smoking of cannabis: From what I understand of the cultivation process, tobacco is a royal bitch to grow and cure. Cannabis, however, seems to be able to thrive in nearly any environment and can often be grown hydroponically, as well as indoors. This could give insight to the more capitalistic, profit-oriented diversity in their legality. Both types of smoking can be paradoxically considered as depressant and excitant (or stimulant). However, the effects on the end-user can be quite diverse. Are they necessarily ranked in quality, or are they merely contrastive?

On the subject of excess: It is not the excess of one night, weekend or vacation that troubles us with existential classifications. The lifestyle of repeated excess is what causes the identity of a person to be compromised by their habits and/or their addictions. The terminology, although debatable, is not the issue. Where do we draw these constructed lines of classification? When does social/recreational participation become considered a disease, obstacle or means for contention?

As for my opinion, I would say that there are far more consequential habits and far more consequential issues.

This post has been edited by TetraGrammaton Cleric: Nov 19 2006, 07:19 AM

[FORSAKENR320]

Weed is illegal because America hates black and mexican people
well, that was the original reason at least...

reminded me of this

Spike Lee (film director) -- "I'm convinced AIDS is a government-engineered disease. They got one thing wrong, they never realized it couldn't just be contained to the groups it was intended to wipe out. So, now it's a national priority. Exactly like drugs when they escaped the urban centers into white suburbia."

[Mommy]

hey, asshat, go back and read what I wrote. I'm not even going to bother trying to get through your thick ass skull, because honestly, you're just another piece of redneck trash that really, doesn't make a shit's worth of difference in anybody's life. And once more, for the last time, I've been sober for over a year now. Next time you want to call me an addict, go look in the mirror as you take another swig, you drunk ass rednecked piece of shit.
And Will, you truly are a rednecked maggot-humping loser who's rage at his daddy-issues only furthers his white trash stereotype and continues his toolness. Please, go drink yourself to death.

Youre probably high right now.

Id prefer to be with a redneck than a red-haired, WoW playing, pothead with self-esteem issues. Thats just my two cents.

This post has been edited by Jessica: Nov 19 2006, 01:44 PM

[Mommy]

Weed is illegal because America hates black and mexican people


well, that was the original reason at least...

did you watch the History Channel special on drugs or something? It came on like a couple times within the past month. It was pretty interesting.

[pebkac]

Just out of curiosity, have Will, Jessica, and Zetec actually met each other? Cuz they sure do act like they know a lot about each other...

This post has been edited by pebkac: Nov 19 2006, 01:57 PM

[pysex]

hey, asshat, go back and read what I wrote. I'm not even going to bother trying to get through your thick ass skull, because honestly, you're just another piece of redneck trash that really, doesn't make a shit's worth of difference in anybody's life. And once more, for the last time, I've been sober for over a year now. Next time you want to call me an addict, go look in the mirror as you take another swig, you drunk ass rednecked piece of shit.
I actually agree with this. Especially the bold part. (Well, I have seen a FEW, but they were certainly not to the degree of success i wish to attain. I've seen a few, but they are few and far between, and I'm not naive enough to believe that i'm gonna be lucky enough to be that exception to the rule.)
And Will, you truly are a rednecked maggot-humping loser who's rage at his daddy-issues only furthers his white trash stereotype and continues his toolness. Please, go drink yourself to death.
edit: clarification on my parenthisis.

Notice you had to go sober. That indicates addiction. Where did it get you? Is getting high really worth the price?

[The Fanatic]

did you watch the History Channel special on drugs or something? It came on like a couple times within the past month. It was pretty interesting.

No, I missed it

[The Fanatic]

Doing anything in moderation is alright IMO, some things you can not do in moderation like smoke meth, therefore it is not ok to do these things in moderation. As long as something does not take over your life, it is ok.

I will first ask you to forgive me, but my familiarity with the subject matter inclines me to comment.

On the subject of "getting drunk:" To have a discourse, we must establish some mutually agreeable definition for this ascribed level of consumption. I would consider "drunk" to be around the level at which notable decline is observed in sensory perception and motor skills. Is it overrated? What rating is it currently at?
From what I have observed, in our society many college-aged persons feel that this level of intoxication is a necessity. For what cause remains debatable. Some drink down their feelings, others their actions. Some feel that it is a carefree abandonment from the required stresses of everyday life. Others just consider it "having fun." Is this level of intoxication more worthy if it achieves a goal that the imbiber is trying to achieve? Is it more acceptable or expected to "get drunk" at certain times, rather than others? If so, what does that intuitively say about drinking? If we determine drunkenness as relative to a person's philosophy on drinking, then could it ever be "overrated" or does it remain at the personal level?

On the subject of the smoking of cannabis: From what I understand of the cultivation process, tobacco is a royal bitch to grow and cure. Cannabis, however, seems to be able to thrive in nearly any environment and can often be grown hydroponically, as well as indoors. This could give insight to the more capitalistic, profit-oriented diversity in their legality. Both types of smoking can be paradoxically considered as depressant and excitant (or stimulant). However, the effects on the end-user can be quite diverse. Are they necessarily ranked in quality, or are they merely contrastive?

On the subject of excess: It is not the excess of one night, weekend or vacation that troubles us with existential classifications. The lifestyle of repeated excess is what causes the identity of a person to be compromised by their habits and/or their addictions. The terminology, although debatable, is not the issue. Where do we draw these constructed lines of classification? When does social/recreational participation become considered a disease, obstacle or means for contention?

As for my opinion, I would say that there are far more consequential habits and far more consequential issues.

Good post

[Throwdown]

hey, asshat, go back and read what I wrote. I'm not even going to bother trying to get through your thick ass skull, because honestly, you're just another piece of redneck trash that really, doesn't make a shit's worth of difference in anybody's life. And once more, for the last time, I've been sober for over a year now. Next time you want to call me an addict, go look in the mirror as you take another swig, you drunk ass rednecked piece of shit.
I actually agree with this. Especially the bold part. (Well, I have seen a FEW, but they were certainly not to the degree of success i wish to attain. I've seen a few, but they are few and far between, and I'm not naive enough to believe that i'm gonna be lucky enough to be that exception to the rule.)
And Will, you truly are a rednecked maggot-humping loser who's rage at his daddy-issues only furthers his white trash stereotype and continues his toolness. Please, go drink yourself to death.
edit: clarification on my parenthisis.

typical zetec response. you completely avoided the issue while managing to insult me every other word. i've read (and posted) some pathetic attacks before, but this takes the cake. it's a classic sophomoric retort when you don't have a real counterargument.

you, sir, are pathetic.

[Trespass]

[The Fanatic]

Let's keep personal attacks to a minimum please. Zetec you are a moderator, you should know better. This is an online forum, and while I disagree with many of these people I do not take any of the things they are saying personally. I know what I do and what I am, I don't need anyone to tell me differently. And I feel no need to attack. Everyone, be respectful please.