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post Nov 14 2006, 10:46 PM
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I think I was the one who split off that thread, but I don't remember for sure.


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post Nov 14 2006, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE (Throwdown @ Nov 14 2006, 07:44 PM) *
you never hear about this kind of behavior with Tom Izzo or Roy Williams. Dean Smith never got in to these kind of predicaments. why is it always Knight? maybe it's because Knight has a problem


Maybe you don't hear about this kind of behaviour because you aren't paying attention. Roy Williams shoved a player last year, Kelvin Sampson struck one of his players in the leg a couple of years ago in Lubbock, Lou Holtz grabbed one of his players by the facemask and practically drug him to the sidelines, etc.

Am I defending what Bob Knight did while at Indiana? Grabbing a player by the throat or the unwanted physical contact with a student? No, absolutely not. But this incident has been completely blown out of proportion by ESPN; it seemed like the clip was replayed every five minutes this afternoon.
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post Nov 14 2006, 11:54 PM
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Roy Williams grabbed a player in the NCAA tournament last year when he wasn't getting back on defense. Lou Holtz has been shown grabbing a player by his helmet. If you are gonna be mad at Knight then thats fine but make sure you hold these other acts to the same standard if you want to sound like you aren't a Bob Knight troll.

and heres a good article on the situation from Dan Wetzel, its worth reading the whole thing.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news?slug=dw...o&type=lgns
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post Nov 15 2006, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE (Throwdown @ Nov 14 2006, 09:32 PM) *
i have no idea what his graduation record was at Indiana. i reckon it's significantly lower than TTU

Knight has never won any national championships at TTU, and probably 90% of his career wins came elsewhere. if you're going to talk about his TTU graduation rates, don't mention accomplishments he garnered at IU and USMA. it's hypocritical

how is it hypocritical to mention his graduation rates along with his coaching accomplishments? he's always graduated players, everywhere he's been. this shouldn't come as news to anyone, especially someone like you who blows their load every time knight's name makes the news.

1 trophy is more than 95% of ncaa coaches will ever win, 3 is more than 99% could ever dream of. i don't see any other big-12 teams winning the championship in the last 10 or 15 years, and tech isn't exactly a basketball school. give us kansas' recruiting abilities and knight would make the sweet sixteen every year.

knight getting us to the semis two years ago and the second round three years ago is undeniably impressive, but by your logic, any coach that doesn't win the national championship with every school they work for is doing a terrible job; i guess coach k did a shitty job at west point...
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post Nov 15 2006, 12:52 AM
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I'm not saying Texas Tech is going to win a national championship in hoops any time soon (or, for that matter, ever) but Bob Knight just signed three of the top 15 high school players in Texas in John Roberson, Mike Singletary and D'Walyn Roberts. His 2006 class was heavy on junior college players (Charles Burgess, Esmir Rizvic, Rogdrick Craig, etc.) and will be the core of this squad for the next couple of years but it's clear that the 2007 group is the future.
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post Nov 15 2006, 02:12 AM
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If anything, Knights reputation helps tech


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post Nov 15 2006, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Nov 15 2006, 02:12 AM) *
If anything, Knights reputation helps tech


even furthering my point that Tech is a shitty school
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post Nov 15 2006, 02:08 PM
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Why so serious?


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QUOTE (Jessica @ Nov 15 2006, 01:43 PM) *
even furthering my point that Tech is a shitty school



Righty-O, Will!


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post Nov 15 2006, 03:03 PM
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fuck you!


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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Nov 15 2006, 02:08 PM) *
Righty-O, Will!
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i didn't write that she did

hence why it's from the name Jessica


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post Nov 15 2006, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Nov 15 2006, 01:43 PM) *
even furthering my point that Tech is a shitty school



I think Lubbock does that...


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post Nov 15 2006, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Nov 15 2006, 01:43 PM) *
even furthering my point that Tech is a shitty school


Wow, that is the most nonsensical argument I've ever heard.
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post Nov 15 2006, 04:32 PM
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Reputation or no, sports have no bearing on the quality of academics of a school.


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post Nov 15 2006, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Nov 15 2006, 03:26 PM) *
I think Lubbock does that...


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post Nov 15 2006, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Nov 15 2006, 01:43 PM) *
even furthering my point that Tech is a shitty school

a characteristic strongly emphasized by its long list of shitty, unemployed grads
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post Nov 15 2006, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Nov 15 2006, 07:38 PM) *
a characteristic strongly emphasized by its long list of shitty, unemployed grads


i'm employed asshole

-w, if you were referring to me
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