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post Nov 13 2006, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 13 2006, 08:30 AM) *
McCain's not really a leftist, he's more of a moderate. In the long run, centrism is what gets votes and I think the Republicans will realize that.

Either that or they'll be assholes and vote for Mitt Romney in the primary.


I know he's not a leftist. His views are like mine (which is probably why I like him), but they are far enough left for the right not to like him.

They'll vote Romney in and they'll lose the '08 race. That's my prediction.


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post Nov 13 2006, 09:21 AM
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wow i didn't realize Rudy Giuliani was interested in running. i bet he'd be a popular candidate.
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post Nov 13 2006, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Nov 13 2006, 09:21 AM) *
wow i didn't realize Rudy Giuliani was interested in running. i bet he'd be a popular candidate.



hardly

he's fizzled out of the public eye....


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post Nov 13 2006, 11:00 AM
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how so?
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post Nov 13 2006, 11:49 AM
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I doubt Giuliani would win the primary. He's a RINO and he's definately too far left to be the republican candidate.


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post Nov 13 2006, 12:24 PM
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I think lewis black had it right when he said we need to elect a dead person as president


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post Nov 13 2006, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 13 2006, 11:49 AM) *
I doubt Giuliani would win the primary. He's a RINO and he's definately too far left to be the republican candidate.



Too far to the left? I have to disagree.


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post Nov 13 2006, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Nov 13 2006, 01:23 PM) *
Too far to the left? I have to disagree.

He's too far to the left for Republicans. He is against death penalty and pro-choice (if i remember correctly). As for moderates i don't know if he would be considered too far to the left.
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post Nov 13 2006, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Nov 13 2006, 01:23 PM) *
Too far to the left? I have to disagree.


I'd say Giuliani's more liberal than conservative. As trespass pointed out, he's anti-death penalty, pro-choice, pro gun control, and pro gay marriage.

I'd vote for him, but I doubt most of the Republican party would.

But I could be wrong. He does appear to be doing fairly well in early polls, so there might be a chance he'd attract enough Republican moderates to get nominated.


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post Nov 13 2006, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Nov 13 2006, 10:49 AM) *
I doubt Giuliani would win the primary. He's a RINO and he's definately too far left to be the republican candidate.

McCain is a RINO too, ya know.


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post Nov 13 2006, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 13 2006, 02:29 PM) *
McCain is a RINO too, ya know.


Not to the degree Giuliani is.


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post Nov 14 2006, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Nov 13 2006, 11:00 AM) *
how so?



Each party has their designated front runner.


The media usually covers their activities more than they do any other candidate. I haven't seen Giuliani or heard from him in a good while.

Plus, the GOP could possibly nominate a moderate like McCain but Giuliani is too far left to get any real support.


My predictions for 2008:

Democratic Front Runners
Clinton
Edwards
Gore

Possibilities
Obama
Biden
John Kerry


Republican Front Runners
Allen
Giuliani
McCain (would be the oldest president ever elected at 72)

Possibilities
Pataki
Jeb Bush
Santorum
Condie Rice


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post Nov 14 2006, 12:12 AM
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As usual, the Democratic front runners are all douchebags. Why can't some level headed democrats run for candidacy? Hah. Feels strange saying level headed democrat.

Republican front runners look more promising but all "maybes". It isn't clear who will be running. God forbid that Jeb Bush run for president. I would have to leave America if the Bush Trifecta ruled the nation.

Allen is kind of a douche but the best middle ground Republican the GOP's got. Santorum is ULTRA CONSERVATIVE and we all know how much the last one left a sour taste in our mouths.

It's a good toss up between Obama and McCain for me. Giuliani if McCain doesn't run and he does.



Please do not elect Hillary Clinton. Witches are not allowed in the presidency.


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post Nov 14 2006, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE (pysex @ Nov 14 2006, 12:12 AM) *
Please do not elect Hillary Clinton. Witches are not allowed in the presidency.


Didn't stop Reagan...


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post Nov 14 2006, 12:47 AM
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I still plan on forming a replacement party to take the spot of one of the parties. Like the Wigs were replaced back in the day (by democrats?).

Sadly both parties suck so much right now that i can't choose which needs to be destroyed and rebuilt.
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