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post Nov 2 2006, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Nov 1 2006, 11:58 PM) *
I liked what ZeFrank had to say on the subject... http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2006/11/110106.html


summary? so i don't have to look at his ugly/annoying face and listen to his ugly/annoying voice?
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post Nov 2 2006, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE (Trespass @ Oct 31 2006, 08:30 PM) *
Its times like this that i wonder if YOU even know what the hell you are talking about.



QUOTE (Overlord @ Nov 1 2006, 09:22 PM) *
i thought you were celebrity gooner

dont you dare say that!


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post Nov 2 2006, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE (Overlord @ Nov 1 2006, 11:13 PM) *
summary? so i don't have to look at his ugly/annoying face and listen to his ugly/annoying voice?

The relevant part:
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During a speech in Pasadena where John Kerry was allegedly trying to support democrats, he told an audience of students, "Education if you make the most of it you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart you can do well. And if you don't you get stuck in Iraq." OOoohhh. The GOP immediately chastised Kerry saying the comments were a slap in the face to the US troops in Iraq.

Kerry then apologized for what he said was a botch joke aimed at the president.

You botched a joke about Bush? How could you screw that up? There wasn't that much material to choose from?

That's like shooting at a wounded elephant, with a bullet the size of a wounded elephant, and missing.

Who is writing your material?

So guys I think I got one about Dick Cheney, ready? Dick Cheney walks into a bar, all women are stupid. What do you think?

You were talking about a education and Bush, it's a home run. I mean you were almost there.

If you study hard, do your homework and make an effort to be smart you can do well. If not well, you can become president.

People woulda laughed just because you didn't say something boring.

Kerry seen here telling a paraplegic joke, has since canceled campaign appearances with democratic congressional candidates.

Ya think!?


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post Nov 2 2006, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 2 2006, 12:49 AM) *
dont you dare say that!

Ha ha did i not equal grant because of the comment about your post being horribly written and me making a smart ass comment about it?
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post Nov 2 2006, 08:26 AM
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As a social experiment I would love for an election to have no political party names used. So a candidate doesn't announce which party he's with and there is no straight ticket voting. I would love to see who people voted for.

Me personally, I want a Democrat in office so that some of these extreme leftists can get a taste of their own medicine. I consider myself pretty much in the middle but these neo-cons and left-wingers just drive me nuts.


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post Nov 2 2006, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Nov 1 2006, 09:33 PM) *
I am upset about the comments Bush made about WMDs as a joke as well... Anyone see that video?


I'm upset that Bush is still upright and breathing...
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post Nov 2 2006, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE (cupcake @ Nov 2 2006, 09:56 AM) *
I'm upset that Bush is still upright and breathing...


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post Nov 2 2006, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE (Trespass @ Nov 2 2006, 01:24 AM) *
Ha ha did i not equal grant because of the comment about your post being horribly written and me making a smart ass comment about it?

no i forgot about that. you dont equal grant because grant is awesome and his posts would all be awesome

youre seth


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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Nov 2 2006, 12:32 PM) *
no i forgot about that. you dont equal grant because grant is awesome and his posts would all be awesome

youre seth


its like guess who.

does he have curly hair?


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post Nov 2 2006, 02:19 PM
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I don't know about the rest of ya, but I personally take more offense to the commander in chief of the armed forces abandoning a U.S. soldier behind enemy, Shi'ite lines than some feeble attempt at a bad joke poking fun at the mr. bush's intelligence.


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post Nov 2 2006, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE (Timbo @ Nov 2 2006, 02:19 PM) *
I don't know about the rest of ya, but I personally take more offense to the commander in chief of the armed forces abandoning a U.S. soldier behind enemy, Shi'ite lines than some feeble attempt at a bad joke poking fun at the mr. bush's intelligence.



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post Nov 2 2006, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Nov 2 2006, 12:51 PM) *
its like guess who.

does he have curly hair?

ha ha, we need a poll for people to guess.

especially with an "i don't care" option... thats what i'd vote for
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post Nov 2 2006, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE (Timbo @ Nov 2 2006, 02:19 PM) *
I don't know about the rest of ya, but I personally take more offense to the commander in chief of the armed forces abandoning a U.S. soldier behind enemy, Shi'ite lines than some feeble attempt at a bad joke poking fun at the mr. bush's intelligence.


I'm not offended, I'm disappointed. But don't say such things about the other president who got us into a bad war, the mob might get ya.


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post Nov 2 2006, 06:09 PM
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Interesting research into our armed-forces: http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalS...ty/cda06-09.cfm


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post Nov 2 2006, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Nov 2 2006, 06:09 PM) *
Interesting research into our armed-forces: http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalS...ty/cda06-09.cfm


Sigh.... yet another cornball study from the heritage foundation. Seriously, ignore think tank research. Whether liberal or conservative, they all have ideologies and will manufacture studies that reinforce those ideologies.

Case in point...

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The Department of Defense (DOD) does not track family income data for recruits, and there are no individual income data for enlistees. Military service is the first full-time job for most of them. We approx­imate each recruit’s household income by using the median household income of his or her hometown ZIP code.

By assigning each recruit the median 1999 household income for his hometown ZIP code as deter­mined from Census 2000, the mean income for 2004 recruits was $43,122 (in 1999 dollars). For 2005 recruits, it was $43,238 (in 1999 dol­lars). These are increases over the mean incomes for the 1999 cohort ($41,141) and 2003 cohort ($42,822). The national median published in Cen­sus 2000 was $41,994. This indicates that, on aver­age, the 2004 and 2005 recruit populations come from even wealthier areas than their peers who enlisted in 1999 and 2003.


When comparing numbers (especially income), it's important to understand why economists and sociologists rarely use the mean. The problem with averages is that they're far too easily skewed by extremely large figures. Imagine you're comparing three people, a person who makes 10k a year, a person who makes 30k a year, and someone who makes 10 million a year. If we take the average, this means that the average person in that group makes about $3.3 million. If we take the median, that means the average person makes 30k a year. While that figure is still a ways off (mainly due to the fact that the sample size is so small), it's a lot more realistic than the mean.

Now, the study does use the median income of the zip code when determining the soldiers' income, but then it averages those incomes together, leading to the effect described above. Now comes something even trickier. Re-read this line:

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By assigning each recruit the median 1999 household income for his hometown ZIP code as deter­mined from Census 2000, the mean income for 2004 recruits was $43,122 (in 1999 dollars). For 2005 recruits, it was $43,238 (in 1999 dol­lars).... The national median published in Cen­sus 2000 was $41,994.


That's right... they just compared a mean to a median, thus making the soldiers' income more than that other Americans'.


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