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pebkac
post Oct 20 2006, 11:26 AM
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Wow... now this is just tacky.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/104154...etter20.article


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GARDEN GROVE, Calif. -- Orange County Republican leaders on Thursday called for the withdrawal of a GOP congressional candidate they think sent a letter threatening Hispanic immigrant voters with arrest.
Tan D. Nguyen denied knowing anything about the letter Thursday but said he fired a campaign staffer who may have been responsible for it.

County Republican Chairman Scott Baugh, however, said that after speaking with state investigators and the company that distributed the mailer, he thinks Nguyen had direct knowledge of the ''obnoxious and reprehensible'' letter. He said the party's executive committee voted unanimously to urge Nguyen to drop out of the race against Democratic U.S. Rep. Loretta Sanchez.

''I learned information that allows me to draw the conclusion that not only was Mr. Nguyen's campaign involved in this, but that Mr. Nguyen was personally involved in expediting the mailer,'' Baugh said.

State and federal officials were investigating the letter, which was written in Spanish and mailed to an estimated 14,000 Democratic voters in central Orange County. It warns, ''You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime that could result in jail time.''

Immigrants who are adult naturalized citizens are eligible to vote.


'I did not do this'
Nguyen, a Vietnamese immigrant whose opposition to illegal immigration has figured heavily in his underdog campaign, was not immediately available to react to the committee's vote.
Earlier Thursday, he said, ''I did not do this. I did not approve of any letter.''

Nguyen said he has fired an employee in his office who might have used his campaign's voter data base to send the letter without his knowledge. He said he was cooperating with authorities and planned to continue his campaign.

Orange County is an immigration battleground. A founder of the Minuteman civilian border patrol group ran for Congress here, and cities have debated issues such as public centers for day laborers and the use of local police to arrest illegal immigrants.

Complaints about the letters this week prompted a state probe. U.S. Justice Department spokeswoman Cynthia Magnuson said the department's civil rights division also was investigating in coordination with the state attorney general's office.

Many political leaders denounced the letter, including Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

''If it is proven that a candidate was responsible for this action, that candidate is clearly not fit to serve the people of California and should withdraw immediately from his or her race,'' California GOP Chairman Duf Sundheim said. AP


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post Oct 20 2006, 04:25 PM
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Wow, another low down stunt by republicans. Disenfranchising voters is one of their favorite activities behind golf and polo


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post Oct 20 2006, 07:21 PM
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i blame bush



oh, and mexicans that illegally enter this country
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post Oct 21 2006, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 20 2006, 05:25 PM) *
Wow, another low down stunt by republicans.

and white people, people with whatever color hair he had, males, americans, human beings, did I miss anything? fuckin A
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post Oct 21 2006, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Gonzo @ Oct 20 2006, 04:25 PM) *
Wow, another low down stunt by republicans. Disenfranchising voters is one of their favorite activities behind golf and polo

Would this really be considered disenfranchisement? It seems to me that the only people this stunt would scare off would be those that weren't really eligible to vote in the first place.


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post Oct 21 2006, 01:54 PM
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if you read the letter all it says is that if illegal immigrants or immigrants who aren't yet citizens vote in the election that they could be arrested and face jail time, which is completely true

so i dont know why everyone is getting their panties in a wad over this
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post Oct 21 2006, 03:07 PM
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Yeah, ditto. I mean, I don't think it was a necessary or appropriate letter to send out, but what's really the big deal about it?


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post Oct 21 2006, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE (Overlord @ Oct 21 2006, 02:54 PM) *
if you read the letter all it says is that if illegal immigrants or immigrants who aren't yet citizens vote in the election that they could be arrested and face jail time, which is completely true

so i dont know why everyone is getting their panties in a wad over this



QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 21 2006, 04:07 PM) *
Yeah, ditto. I mean, I don't think it was a necessary or appropriate letter to send out, but what's really the big deal about it?


No, read it again.

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''You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime that could result in jail time


It doesn't qualify the immigrant part by saying they can't be citizens for it to be a federal offense.

Secondly, notice that the letters were sent out to 14,000 registered Democratic voters, which means they're either truly legal to vote or already using falsified documents in which case a letter isn't going to make them quit.

Sorry, but this wasn't some kind-hearted public service announcement, it was an attempt to scare the opposition into not voting.


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impala454
post Oct 21 2006, 04:12 PM
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i'd be interested to know how many illegal immigrants actually go vote anyhow
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post Oct 21 2006, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 21 2006, 05:12 PM) *
i'd be interested to know how many illegal immigrants actually go vote anyhow


i don't know if you've heard about all the allegations of voter fraud in california, but supposedly illegal immigrants voting in elections is a huge problem there

in the california legislature both republicans and demcrats struck down a bill that would require you to show a valid driver's license when you vote... both parties were against it because both parties want to continue to let illegals vote and have benefited from it in past elections
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post Oct 21 2006, 05:11 PM
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Illegal immigrants are also counted into a state's population, thus creating more electorial votes for a state that has more illegal immigrants.
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post Oct 21 2006, 06:14 PM
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damned illegals

oh well at least they sweep the floors & fry the burgers
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post Oct 21 2006, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 21 2006, 07:14 PM) *
damned illegals

oh well at least they suck a mean dick for like 5 bucks



Fixed dis
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post Oct 21 2006, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE (Seussninja @ Oct 21 2006, 07:16 PM) *
I love getting my dick sucked by mexicans

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post Oct 21 2006, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 21 2006, 07:26 PM) *
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