Vista RC1 Options

[impala454]

impala454, do you even know what Expose is? Even the equivalent in Linux is far better than flip 3d, which breaks usibility by not allowing you to see all the windows at once in various layouts. Also the Vista knock-off of dashboard is a laugh cause it wastes desktop space an memory. You don't need widgets always in your face, just when you need the information.

Well if you go back and look what I said, you'll notice I didn't claim flip 3d is any better, I asked why you think it's a "copy". Obviously you feel that flip 3d is completely different than the Mac one, which is fine, I'm sure it is, which is why it's not a copy.

And maybe you'd like to explain this miraculous Dashboard that doesn't use memory. That would be a neat trick by any OS.

It's hilarious to me how defensive you OSX freaks are getting when people start talking about Vista.

[Hartmann]

It's hilarious to me how defensive you OSX freaks are getting when people start talking about Vista.

I don't have anything else to say in this thread except this...

It amazes me how much you bash other operating systems, yet from what I've read, Windows is the only thing you really ever use. Granted, I'm guessing you've touched Linux a few times for CS stuff and maybe you've looked at OS X a little, but it really doesn't sound like you have actually taken the time or money to purchase one of the machines to do a little research of your own.

To me it's all about preference and getting the job done. If a Windows box will get a particular job done better than a Linux box, then that's what I am going to use (talking about development here). And the vice versa is also true.

[woody]

[Hartmann]

What can I say, a horse is never dead enough..

[John6.7]

John, windows being far more customizeable is a laugh. Maybe in terms of the GUI it is, but for system operation it is not. It is called Terminal, learn it, love it.

Yes, I mean the GUI. Most people use the GUI.

I'm cs, I know the terminal. It's called putty to my unix box.

[Spectatrix]

Ok... First of all, I am not as much of a Mac Nut as I used to be, I have a new thing I am crazy about, and I know at least one person on this board who knows what that is. Since he is the only one on these boards that I am aware is familier with this topic, I see no point discussing it with the rest of you right now.

You mean Ghibli films?

[impala454]

I don't have anything else to say in this thread except this...

It amazes me how much you bash other operating systems, yet from what I've read, Windows is the only thing you really ever use. Granted, I'm guessing you've touched Linux a few times for CS stuff and maybe you've looked at OS X a little, but it really doesn't sound like you have actually taken the time or money to purchase one of the machines to do a little research of your own.

that's just it though I don't bash other OSs at all. it's you guys who come into any thread about windows or anything microsoft and talk about how much "blahblahOS" is better and how much windows copies it. it honestly is getting old. i'll admit I used to be a jackass when someone started threads about linux or mac, but it's been a very long time.

i've used plenty of linux for development at work, and can't stand it. i'll take the .net 05 debugger any day. as far as home use, i spent quite a bit of time over several years messing with linux and found a lot of things I liked, and some I didn't. The main reason I don't use it as a primary desktop is it's just too damn much to go through to get the thing set up, hardware drivers are occasionally hard to come by (although I'm sure it's gotten better), and I can't play my games on it. i've reinstalled my system a couple times from vista beta 2 to vista rc1 x86 to vista rc1 x64, and once the download is done then to vista rc2 x64, and wow the installation is quick. from boot off the dvd to ready to use in about 30 minutes, with almost no user input.

as far as OSX goes, I honestly would love to get a copy of it and check it out some day. I even went to their site the other day to see how I could get it and try it, but all I find is this page: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebO...nplm=MA453Z%2FA which tells me I have to have a PowerPC G5, G4, or G3 processor. I'm not about to go out and buy a Mac computer just to try out their OS. If there is some way to try it out on my PC I'd love to try it (I thought they supported PCs now?).

[pebkac]

There's ways to get OS X to run on a windows comp, but they're not very reliable from what I hear. That and Apple doesn't support them.

[impala454]

bah... are they going to with the new one?

[pebkac]

Probably not. If not for OS X, Apple would be just another computer manufacturer.

[John6.7]

Probably not. If not for OS X, Apple would be just another computer manufacturer.

So? I would prob get OS X for my old PC if I could. I'm not paying all that money for an apple computer.

[Hartmann]

that's just it though I don't bash other OSs at all. it's you guys who come into any thread about windows or anything microsoft and talk about how much "blahblahOS" is better and how much windows copies it. it honestly is getting old. i'll admit I used to be a jackass when someone started threads about linux or mac, but it's been a very long time.

Now you're just pointing fingers. I'll be the first to admit that I have attacked Windows, but I've also had my Mac qualms. However, you still seem to almost troll OS X threads just to say "how's that any different than blah, blah, blah" just to start something.

I try not to come into Windows threads to bash stuff, especially if it's an interesting thread. However, when people state "oh this is the coolest thing ever and is going to be awesome" for anything, when it's obviously not, then I'll say something.

I am sorry to single you out in this whole thing but it always seems that we get to this point in the conversation and you bring out the "but it's you guys". Let's just drop it and say that from now on when anyone has a valid question or point they should post it, but if it's just a "well that sucks" type of post then it doesn't need to be there.

Zetec, that cool with you? I'd like to see something like that implemented.

[impala454]

Now you're just pointing fingers. I'll be the first to admit that I have attacked Windows, but I've also had my Mac qualms. However, you still seem to almost troll OS X threads just to say "how's that any different than blah, blah, blah" just to start something.

I try not to come into Windows threads to bash stuff, especially if it's an interesting thread. However, when people state "oh this is the coolest thing ever and is going to be awesome" for anything, when it's obviously not, then I'll say something.

I am sorry to single you out in this whole thing but it always seems that we get to this point in the conversation and you bring out the "but it's you guys". Let's just drop it and say that from now on when anyone has a valid question or point they should post it, but if it's just a "well that sucks" type of post then it doesn't need to be there.

Zetec, that cool with you? I'd like to see something like that implemented.

I'm pointing it out that several of you guys do this because it seems like it happens in every damn thread that starts discussing a microsoft product. I've got no problem with people objecting, but it'd at least be nice to have an intelligent discussion as to the actual facts & differences. As far as you guys LAMP/Mac stuff or whatever, I haven't been derogatory about any of that for a long time, although I guess it takes a while to shed a reputation.

and hehe dude... the

when people state "oh this is the coolest thing ever and is going to be awesome" for anything, when it's obviously not, then I'll say something.

got a pretty good laugh out of me... not bein mean, it's just that i guess "cool" is complete opinion... that is, unless you're the master of what is cool and what's obviously not

i don't even mind if people get all pissed and go "OMGZ THAT POS SUCKS ASS" as long as they provide some explanation why they feel that way

[Mommy]

its obvious that Stephan can in fact (and has) have an itelligent conversation discussing OS's. I know first hand that several go in and talk shit about Mac including myself AND Impala. Microsoft does not gain amnesty just because Impala wants to talk "intelligently" on the matter. Its apparent that Stephan has told you in multiple threads to quit trolling him and to back off. He can't even give an honest opinion without you insulting him. Get a life and realize that there are different OS's for the simple fact that they meet people's different needs and desires. If one was superior in all aspects then there would only be one. I think there should be rules to just stick to the facts here because Impala obviously cannot play nice like a big boy. ...and this is coming from a Microsoft fangirl

This post has been edited by Jessica: Oct 20 2006, 06:21 AM

[impala454]

jessica, show me where i have trolled him. show me where i insulted him in my thread. if anything you're the one always trolling in this forum because you sure as hell never contribue anything. you assholes need to quit acting like every time i stick up for myself that i'm the one bein the asshole. read the god damn thread.