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Oct 4 2006, 05:49 PM
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#106
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 4 2006, 05:36 PM) people wont forever think that if they can even begin to grip the fact of a reality outside of their own sorry, i can't help but think about everytime you've gotten into a arguement and gotten stubborn..... -------------------- |
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Oct 4 2006, 06:06 PM
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#107
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I dont know what I think about all this. My hope is just to shed an opposing light on all of this. Sometimes I think its good to look at things from both sides, not just be like THIS IS SO STUPID ITS FULL OF SHIT BLAH BLAH BLAH. If you think that its bullshit, do something about it! - plain and simple. Sitting on your ass posting on a message board that is frequented by 20-30 people wont do much as far as swaying the vote. Honestly, I think we are all completely fooled by government. I think a lot of what has been made so public during the Bush administration has been going on for decades. At least we know what is going on now and if we dont like it we can vote for officials that say they share our perspective (no one will know for sure if the really do or not). I dont think these torture methods should be blamed solely on the Bush administration. We all could think of other times that they have been used under different presidencies. I argue the opposite of the majority on here. Its what I do...not to create drama or to gain attention, but I think that people need to know why they believe what they believe...show me proof where people are being inhumanely tortured, show me proof that this wasnt going on before, show me.... If you believe it, you must have a reason.
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Oct 4 2006, 06:08 PM
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#108
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![]() Group: Agents Posts: 4,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lu-bok Member No.: 41 |
QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 4 2006, 06:32 PM) the most common phrase used on both sides of any conflict is "we will fight the heathens" we will forever think "our way is ok" burn heretic. -------------------- |
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Oct 4 2006, 06:13 PM
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#109
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Oct 4 2006, 06:08 PM) burn heretic. NO ONE SUSPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!! -------------------- |
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Oct 4 2006, 06:28 PM
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#110
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 4 2006, 05:49 PM) sorry, i can't help but think about everytime you've gotten into a arguement and gotten stubborn..... pot and kettle dude totally pot and kettle -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Oct 4 2006, 06:30 PM
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#111
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 06:06 PM) I dont know what I think about all this. My hope is just to shed an opposing light on all of this. Sometimes I think its good to look at things from both sides, not just be like THIS IS SO STUPID ITS FULL OF SHIT BLAH BLAH BLAH. If you think that its bullshit, do something about it! - plain and simple. Sitting on your ass posting on a message board that is frequented by 20-30 people wont do much as far as swaying the vote. Honestly, I think we are all completely fooled by government. I think a lot of what has been made so public during the Bush administration has been going on for decades. At least we know what is going on now and if we dont like it we can vote for officials that say they share our perspective (no one will know for sure if the really do or not). I dont think these torture methods should be blamed solely on the Bush administration. We all could think of other times that they have been used under different presidencies. I argue the opposite of the majority on here. Its what I do...not to create drama or to gain attention, but I think that people need to know why they believe what they believe...show me proof where people are being inhumanely tortured, show me proof that this wasnt going on before, show me.... If you believe it, you must have a reason. proof? no one is ever going to swim to gitmo, jump the walls, and carry back a beaten and burnt corpse. no you dont need tangible things like that to believe something is wrong. and certainly not when things are clearly immoral and illegal -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Oct 4 2006, 06:33 PM
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#112
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 4 2006, 06:30 PM) proof? no one is ever going to swim to gitmo, jump the walls, and carry back a beaten and burnt corpse. no you dont need tangible things like that to believe something is wrong. and certainly not when things are clearly immoral and illegal i did that once. corpse stunk, but made a tasty snack -------------------- |
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Oct 4 2006, 06:43 PM
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#113
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 4 2006, 07:30 PM) proof? no one is ever going to swim to gitmo, jump the walls, and carry back a beaten and burnt corpse. no you dont need tangible things like that to believe something is wrong. and certainly not when things are clearly immoral and illegal well, then if there is no proof, how do we know its going on? maybe we are all getting our panties in a wad for nothing |
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Oct 4 2006, 06:52 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 4 2006, 06:26 PM) In my mind a rational person cant make excuses for torture. in my mind it's worth it if you save thousands of lives. i also would tend to have less mercy on enemies who sent videos of them cutting off the heads of reporters. |
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Oct 4 2006, 06:55 PM
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#115
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2006, 06:52 PM) in my mind it's worth it if you save thousands of lives. i also would tend to have less mercy on enemies who sent videos of them cutting off the heads of reporters. so its not worth it if there were never any lives in danger in the first place? you know that circumstance probably happens more often than otherwise if you do bad things because someone else did bad things the original perpretrator does worse. kindergarten politics in the real world -------------------- Little monkeys making money
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Oct 4 2006, 06:56 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 06:43 PM) well, then if there is no proof, how do we know its going on? maybe we are all getting our panties in a wad for nothing now you're getting into religion.... thats dangerous territory there -------------------- |
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Oct 4 2006, 07:07 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 4 2006, 07:56 PM) now you're getting into religion.... thats dangerous territory there |
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Oct 4 2006, 07:11 PM
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![]() Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
If those quotes spivey put up are right, I do not like this. We should just threaten to inject pigs blood into them.
-------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Oct 4 2006, 08:09 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 4 2006, 05:32 PM) the most common phrase used on both sides of any conflict is "we will fight the heathens" we will forever think "our way is ok" We must call upon our bright darkness, Beliefs, they're the bullets of the wicked, One was written on the sword, For you must enter a room to destroy it, International security, Call of the righteous man, Needs a reason to kill man, History teaches us so, The reason he must attain, Must be approved by his God, His child, partisan brother of war We will fight the heathens we will fight the heathens -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Oct 4 2006, 08:25 PM
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#120
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (Spivey @ Oct 4 2006, 09:09 PM) We must call upon our bright darkness, Beliefs, they're the bullets of the wicked, One was written on the sword, For you must enter a room to destroy it, International security, Call of the righteous man, Needs a reason to kill man, History teaches us so, The reason he must attain, Must be approved by his God, His child, partisan brother of war We will fight the heathens we will fight the heathens thats retarded |
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