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FORSAKENR320
post Oct 4 2006, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 4 2006, 05:36 PM)
people wont forever think that if they can even begin to grip the fact of a reality outside of their own

sorry, i can't help but think about everytime you've gotten into a arguement and gotten stubborn..... laugh.gif


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post Oct 4 2006, 06:06 PM
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I dont know what I think about all this. My hope is just to shed an opposing light on all of this. Sometimes I think its good to look at things from both sides, not just be like THIS IS SO STUPID ITS FULL OF SHIT BLAH BLAH BLAH. If you think that its bullshit, do something about it! - plain and simple. Sitting on your ass posting on a message board that is frequented by 20-30 people wont do much as far as swaying the vote. Honestly, I think we are all completely fooled by government. I think a lot of what has been made so public during the Bush administration has been going on for decades. At least we know what is going on now and if we dont like it we can vote for officials that say they share our perspective (no one will know for sure if the really do or not). I dont think these torture methods should be blamed solely on the Bush administration. We all could think of other times that they have been used under different presidencies. I argue the opposite of the majority on here. Its what I do...not to create drama or to gain attention, but I think that people need to know why they believe what they believe...show me proof where people are being inhumanely tortured, show me proof that this wasnt going on before, show me.... If you believe it, you must have a reason.
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post Oct 4 2006, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 4 2006, 06:32 PM)
the most common phrase used on both sides of any conflict is "we will fight the heathens"

we will forever think "our way is ok"

burn heretic.


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post Oct 4 2006, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE (Divergent Reality @ Oct 4 2006, 06:08 PM)
burn heretic.

NO ONE SUSPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!


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post Oct 4 2006, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 4 2006, 05:49 PM)
sorry, i can't help but think about everytime you've gotten into a arguement and gotten stubborn..... laugh.gif

pot and kettle dude totally pot and kettle


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post Oct 4 2006, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 06:06 PM)
I dont know what I think about all this. My hope is just to shed an opposing light on all of this. Sometimes I think its good to look at things from both sides, not just be like THIS IS SO STUPID ITS FULL OF SHIT BLAH BLAH BLAH. If you think that its bullshit, do something about it! - plain and simple. Sitting on your ass posting on a message board that is frequented by 20-30 people wont do much as far as swaying the vote. Honestly, I think we are all completely fooled by government. I think a lot of what has been made so public during the Bush administration has been going on for decades. At least we know what is going on now and if we dont like it we can vote for officials that say they share our perspective (no one will know for sure if the really do or not). I dont think these torture methods should be blamed solely on the Bush administration. We all could think of other times that they have been used under different presidencies. I argue the opposite of the majority on here. Its what I do...not to create drama or to gain attention, but I think that people need to know why they believe what they believe...show me proof where people are being inhumanely tortured, show me proof that this wasnt going on before, show me.... If you believe it, you must have a reason.

proof? no one is ever going to swim to gitmo, jump the walls, and carry back a beaten and burnt corpse. no you dont need tangible things like that to believe something is wrong. and certainly not when things are clearly immoral and illegal


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post Oct 4 2006, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 4 2006, 06:30 PM)
proof? no one is ever going to swim to gitmo, jump the walls, and carry back a beaten and burnt corpse. no you dont need tangible things like that to believe something is wrong. and certainly not when things are clearly immoral and illegal

i did that once.


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post Oct 4 2006, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 4 2006, 07:30 PM)
proof? no one is ever going to swim to gitmo, jump the walls, and carry back a beaten and burnt corpse. no you dont need tangible things like that to believe something is wrong. and certainly not when things are clearly immoral and illegal

well, then if there is no proof, how do we know its going on? maybe we are all getting our panties in a wad for nothing
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post Oct 4 2006, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Oct 4 2006, 06:26 PM)
In my mind a rational person cant make excuses for torture.

in my mind it's worth it if you save thousands of lives.

i also would tend to have less mercy on enemies who sent videos of them cutting off the heads of reporters.
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post Oct 4 2006, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Oct 4 2006, 06:52 PM)
in my mind it's worth it if you save thousands of lives.

i also would tend to have less mercy on enemies who sent videos of them cutting off the heads of reporters.

so its not worth it if there were never any lives in danger in the first place? you know that circumstance probably happens more often than otherwise

if you do bad things because someone else did bad things the original perpretrator does worse. kindergarten politics in the real world


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post Oct 4 2006, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 06:43 PM)
well, then if there is no proof, how do we know its going on? maybe we are all getting our panties in a wad for nothing

now you're getting into religion.... thats dangerous territory there


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post Oct 4 2006, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 4 2006, 07:56 PM)
now you're getting into religion.... thats dangerous territory there

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post Oct 4 2006, 07:11 PM
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If those quotes spivey put up are right, I do not like this. We should just threaten to inject pigs blood into them.


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post Oct 4 2006, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Oct 4 2006, 05:32 PM)
the most common phrase used on both sides of any conflict is "we will fight the heathens"

we will forever think "our way is ok"

We must call upon our bright darkness,
Beliefs, they're the bullets of the wicked,
One was written on the sword,
For you must enter a room to destroy it,
International security,
Call of the righteous man,
Needs a reason to kill man,
History teaches us so,
The reason he must attain,
Must be approved by his God,
His child, partisan brother of war

We will fight the heathens
we will fight the heathens


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post Oct 4 2006, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (Spivey @ Oct 4 2006, 09:09 PM)
We must call upon our bright darkness,
Beliefs, they're the bullets of the wicked,
One was written on the sword,
For you must enter a room to destroy it,
International security,
Call of the righteous man,
Needs a reason to kill man,
History teaches us so,
The reason he must attain,
Must be approved by his God,
His child, partisan brother of war

We will fight the heathens
we will fight the heathens

thats retarded
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