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Oct 4 2006, 02:39 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 02:13 PM) i would like to know what this piece really says. first off, a president shouldnt be the only one guilty of war crimes....or just his administration at that. there are a TON of people that would go down with him. I want to know the specifics of what exactly he is above... like what cant he get away with and what can he. There is no damn way that Congress would pass a law putting the administration completely above the law. I comprehend what you are saying. I just think its unnecessary to bitch about the same shit over and over, especially when none of us know the full story or law. I posted the bill, which is now a law -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Oct 4 2006, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE (Spivey @ Oct 4 2006, 02:39 PM) Analogy is not meant to be perfect... it is meant to proove a point, that no one should be above the law. I agree with that. it's that hand-tying governing action, however, that should be done away with. |
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Oct 4 2006, 02:42 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (cupcake @ Oct 4 2006, 02:40 PM) I agree with that. it's that hand-tying governing action, however, that should be done away with. laws should be made both to protect the people from criminals and their own gov. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Oct 4 2006, 02:43 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 03:39 PM) I said if they are a suspect. Im sorry, but I was born here. I am a citizen. I get more rights then aliens because thats how our government works. Aliens cant vote either. Why arent you bitching about that? There should have to be some strong evidence but not like this: Yes, but that's the problem. There doesn't have to be strong evidence. All the president has to do is label someone an "enemy combatant" and then he can lock them away for life without a shred of evidence. Even if you trust Pres Bush to do this, how can you trust any future presidents who may or may not be quite so nice? And more importantly, even if you trust President Bush, how can you trust every single person who's in a position to make decisions on this? EDIT: Secondly, the Constitution limits a legal immigrant's right to vote. It doesn't apply such limits on habeas corpus. -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Oct 4 2006, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE (Spivey @ Oct 4 2006, 03:39 PM) I posted the bill, which is now a law i see where you posted it. i read it and i agree with it. people are trying to blame Bush for 9/11. It wasnt his fault Bush is trying to protect our nation from further attacks |
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Oct 4 2006, 02:51 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 02:51 PM) i see where you posted it. i read it and i agree with it. people are trying to blame Bush for 9/11. It wasnt his fault Bush is trying to protect our nation from further attacks You say that you don't suck the dick of our president... But I think you are a liar! -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Oct 4 2006, 02:52 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 03:51 PM) i see where you posted it. i read it and i agree with it. people are trying to blame Bush for 9/11. It wasnt his fault Bush is trying to protect our nation from further attacks By asking for the ability to jail who he wants when he wants for whatever reason he wants? Right. And I like pussy. -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Oct 4 2006, 02:53 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (pebkac @ Oct 4 2006, 03:43 PM) Even if you trust Pres Bush to do this, how can you trust any future presidents who may or may not be quite so nice? And more importantly, even if you trust President Bush, how can you trust every single person who's in a position to make decisions on this? I thought this bill was only to protect the Bush administration? |
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Oct 4 2006, 02:54 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 02:30 PM) I dont feel like explaining my whole point but in essence, they chose to come over here and not take the proper steps in becoming a citizen. It takes several years to become a citizen, Jessica. -------------------- |
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Oct 4 2006, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 4 2006, 03:54 PM) It takes several years to become a citizen, Jessica. i know. thats time well spent becoming a respectable member of society. |
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Oct 4 2006, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE (Spivey @ Oct 4 2006, 03:51 PM) You say that you don't suck the dick of our president... But I think you are a liar! i dont like him. i just think he is handling this whole terrorism problem the best way he knows how...and thats better than gore or kerry could do |
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Oct 4 2006, 03:02 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 02:53 PM) I thought this bill was only to protect the Bush administration? It sets a precedent for future presidents. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Oct 4 2006, 03:03 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (Spivey @ Oct 4 2006, 04:02 PM) It sets a precedent for future presidents. so does getting a blow job in the oval office.... |
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Oct 4 2006, 03:04 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 04:03 PM) so does getting a blow job in the oval office.... If a president does a good job, he can get all the blow jobs in the Oval Office he wants as far as I'm concerned. -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Oct 4 2006, 03:05 PM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Oct 4 2006, 02:03 PM) so does getting a blow job in the oval office.... Because we all know infidelity is far worse than torture. -------------------- ![]() |
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