 Civil War In Iraq |
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 Sep 28 2006, 06:24 PM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15  |
QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Sep 28 2006, 07:20 PM) the great depression was after WWI, but it wasn't caused by it. it happened 11 years after WWI was over. world depression was caused by world war 1 and the inability of countries to pay their war debts. This post has been edited by Jessica: Sep 28 2006, 06:24 PM |
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Sep 28 2006, 06:30 PM
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 monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Sep 28 2006, 07:24 PM) world depression was caused by world war 1 and the inability of countries to pay their war debts. but our economy didn't die. and we're america. fuck yeah. |
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Sep 28 2006, 06:32 PM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Sep 28 2006, 07:30 PM) but our economy didn't die. and we're america. fuck yeah. thats us...always comin around to save the mother fuckin day yeah |
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Sep 28 2006, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE (Spivey @ Sep 28 2006, 05:27 PM) ditto Please don't forget that I worked in the oil industry, namely in exploration and production. I worked for Shell, meaning we were not held under the U.S. laws on embargos, etc. meaning I got to see drilling data from places such as Iraq, Cuba, Syria, etc. Shell was planning to deal with Iraq before the invasion and were starting to look at British survey data from the 50's and 60's. They were also looking at the state of the production facilities and how susceptible the facilities were to attack (the oil refineries and transfer stations had been targets before). From what I saw in 2003 and 2004, it was determined that the drilling capacity and overall possibility of making money from Iraq in the next 10 years was slim to none. It was understood that the feasibility just wasn't there. Just from my memory. I know there are some U.S. government and independent contractor documents out there that mention similiar things. I'll try to dig them up. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 28 2006, 08:05 PM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 28 2006, 07:36 PM) Please don't forget that I worked in the oil industry, namely in exploration and production. I worked for Shell, meaning we were not held under the U.S. laws on embargos, etc. meaning I got to see drilling data from places such as Iraq, Cuba, Syria, etc. Shell was planning to deal with Iraq before the invasion and were starting to look at British survey data from the 50's and 60's. They were also looking at the state of the production facilities and how susceptible the facilities were to attack (the oil refineries and transfer stations had been targets before). From what I saw in 2003 and 2004, it was determined that the drilling capacity and overall possibility of making money from Iraq in the next 10 years was slim to none. It was understood that the feasibility just wasn't there. Just from my memory. I know there are some U.S. government and independent contractor documents out there that mention similiar things. I'll try to dig them up. How can shell do buisness with Iraq while sanctions are in place. hmmmmm -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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Sep 28 2006, 08:29 PM
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CHEE CHEE Group: Members Posts: 5,026 Joined: 23-February 06 From: trapped in the hoezone layer Member No.: 39 |
jessica i think youwere the first person in this thread to start cursing so dont say im being offensive that schtick is old
check the huge contracts american companies got due to the war, invasion and occupation. check the amount of money investors made then looked what happened when the government lets corrupt business have at whatever they want -------------------- Little monkeys making money
Naked monkey looking funny Mighty males are strong and free Female monkey, not so lucky Rocking monkeys, funky monkeys Monkeys sticking other monkeys Monkeys wrong or monkeys right Mostly flexing monkey might |
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Sep 28 2006, 08:31 PM
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 From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Sep 28 2006, 09:29 PM) jessica i think youwere the first person in this thread to start cursing so dont say im being offensive that schtick is old check the huge contracts american companies got due to the war, invasion and occupation. check the amount of money investors made then looked what happened when the government lets corrupt business have at whatever they want I would agree that the investment potential for a lot of companies is there in the long term, but in the short term, I don't think the War in Iraq had that big an effect. -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM)  Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Sep 28 2006, 08:33 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (Spivey @ Sep 28 2006, 08:05 PM) How can shell do buisness with Iraq while sanctions are in place. hmmmmm Shell is a Dutch/British company  They are not held under sanctions, just like BP.
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Sep 28 2006, 08:34 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (pebkac @ Sep 28 2006, 08:31 PM) I would agree that the investment potential for a lot of companies is there in the long term, but in the short term, I don't think the War in Iraq had that big an effect. Very true... The long term potential just isn't there. P.S. - These reports were not in the U.S., I saw them when I was in Riswyk, Norway. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 28 2006, 11:44 PM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (pebkac @ Sep 28 2006, 07:11 PM) bwahahaha.... so an iraqi turncoat says they're not developing weapons... gee that's a great little gem of info to base your country's safety on. QUOTE (pebkac @ Sep 28 2006, 07:11 PM) I dunno... probably destroying the weapons they DID have. but this was what they were instructed to do via the UN sanctions... why the hell would they not allow inspectors in so they could destroy weapons?? |
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Sep 29 2006, 12:42 AM
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New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
QUOTE (Testm0nkey @ Sep 28 2006, 09:29 PM) jessica i think youwere the first person in this thread to start cursing so dont say im being offensive that schtick is old cursed? yeah, i cursed but i dont think i was the first is cursing in general a personal attack? no. i made no personal attacks. go back and look, everytime i said something about ignorance, i spoke generally and to no one in specific. so why dont we have a real discussion for once instead of hashing on old personal attacks that have absolutely no relevance whatsoever to this thread. |
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Sep 29 2006, 01:14 AM
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 Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Sep 28 2006, 07:24 PM) world depression was caused by world war 1 and the inability of countries to pay their war debts. not exactly. Sure, WWI's massive reparations was part of the cause of the depression internationally, but here at home the practice of credit without sufficient backing was a major factor in starting the depression (domestically...and thusly spreading beyond the US). -------------------- |
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Sep 29 2006, 01:52 AM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Sep 28 2006, 08:33 PM) Shell is a Dutch/British company They are not held under sanctions, just like BP.I believe that britian had sanctions as well. Not even the french could get in and they HAD oil contracts. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Sep 29 2006, 01:53 AM
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Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Sep 29 2006, 01:14 AM) not exactly. Sure, WWI's massive reparations was part of the cause of the depression internationally, but here at home the practice of credit without sufficient backing was a major factor in starting the depression (domestically...and thusly spreading beyond the US). Dont forget Credit! Americans were using credit more and more, even though they could not pay for it.... hmmmm reminds me of today.... We are probably due for another depression. -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Sep 29 2006, 04:28 AM
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Italian. Yes. Group: Members Posts: 767 Joined: 22-February 06 From: - Member No.: 18 |
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2498825
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQBLsoOngA0 - the full edit, apparently Timbo --------------------  |
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