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Sep 12 2006, 01:13 PM
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#706
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (pysex @ Sep 12 2006, 12:45 PM) you proved my point right there paladins have nothing going for them except the fucking shield take it away and they're worthless.... (pvp wise) I have seen a paladin grand marshal on my server, he did not get to that point by bubbling. besides, it's one class in nine that can dispel it. people are acting like they're removing the thing from the game or something. and if you say that's all paladins have going for them pvp wise you're crazy. they have the best buff in the game, wear plate, have talents that basically give them free heals, and the retribution tree is badass. lots of people piss and moan that pallies can't do damage, what they're really pissing and moaning about is that they can't do damage while holy specced. a full ret pally is a force in pvp. look at eye for an eye.. ridiculous in pvp. i've seen people kill themselves by this talent due to some massive spell crit. and all the pally has to do is... be hit by a spell Pallies are fine, they simply suffer the same fate all the healing classes do. Shaman, Druids, Priests, Paladins all have healing trees and damage trees. With any of these classes if you choose the healing tree you'll sacrifice being able to do lots of damage. |
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Sep 12 2006, 01:31 PM
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#707
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 12 2006, 02:13 PM) I have seen a paladin grand marshal on my server, he did not get to that point by bubbling. besides, it's one class in nine that can dispel it. people are acting like they're removing the thing from the game or something. The fact he got to grand marshal just means he has more time to spend on PVP than everyone else, not that he's neccessarily good at it. -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Sep 12 2006, 01:40 PM
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#708
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (pebkac @ Sep 12 2006, 12:31 PM) The fact he got to grand marshal just means he has more time to spend on PVP than everyone else, not that he's neccessarily good at it. Not necessarily true. While PvP was a HUGE time sink, that doesn't mean you can't have any skill whatsoever. -------------------- ![]() |
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Sep 12 2006, 01:45 PM
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#709
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
QUOTE (Jim @ Sep 12 2006, 01:40 PM) Not necessarily true. While PvP was a HUGE time sink, that doesn't mean you can't have any skill whatsoever. The grand marshals on my server all hail from tier 2 guilds who run through AV in about 15 minutes and cap all 5 flags in AB. At that point no real skill is required. I like the new patch that mixes up the playing field a good bit but now I just get damn tired of waiting around for an hour and a half to join a game. -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Sep 12 2006, 01:53 PM
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#710
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
QUOTE (pysex @ Sep 12 2006, 12:45 PM) The grand marshals on my server all hail from tier 2 guilds who run through AV in about 15 minutes and cap all 5 flags in AB. At that point no real skill is required. This just mean your server sucks. -------------------- ![]() |
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Sep 12 2006, 02:08 PM
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#711
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
just look at it this way. the chances of the pally shield getting dispelled are very low. in general they only use it when they start getting low on health so they can heal uninterrupted. well their biggest heal is 2.5 sec cast. hitting the bubble + main 1 sec cooldown + heal = 3.5 sec from bubble to healed. the priest mass dispel is 1.5 sec cast, ground targeted, 15 yd radius. it'd take a priest at best about 1 sec to react to the bubble, then press the key for mass dispel, then probably another 0.5-1 sec to click the ground where they want to cast, then another 1.5 sec to cast (3-3.5 sec total). the priest is not even guaranteed the pally will still be in range of the dispel. so it would barely even be probably that the shield goes down before the pally could get off a heal, and that's with near perfect timing. in general, ground targeted spells typically don't work well in PvP. I don't see this one being any different. I see it working great as a PvE decurse and not much more. Besides, just to re-iterate, it's one class that can dispel the shield. ONE.
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Sep 12 2006, 02:21 PM
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#712
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (Jim @ Sep 12 2006, 02:53 PM) This just mean your server sucks. Yeah, but the point is that just because someone's a grand marshal doesn't mean they're skilled. -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Sep 12 2006, 02:27 PM
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#713
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (pebkac @ Sep 12 2006, 03:21 PM) Yeah, but the point is that just because someone's a grand marshal doesn't mean they're skilled. i can agree with this. in general if you could spend all your waking hours pvping, you can get a pretty high rank. chances are though, that if someone spends this much time pvping they're probably pretty good. |
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Sep 12 2006, 02:31 PM
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#714
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
QUOTE (Jim @ Sep 12 2006, 01:53 PM) This just mean your server sucks. I think that can be said for all the old servers where if you aren't in the starting guilds you're toast. -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Sep 20 2006, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE (pysex @ Sep 12 2006, 11:45 AM) you proved my point right there paladins have nothing going for them except the fucking shield take it away and they're worthless.... (pvp wise) Spell DMG pallys ftw |
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Sep 20 2006, 11:42 AM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
QUOTE (rageisrelentlez @ Sep 20 2006, 10:57 AM) yeah look at the kind of gear you need to achieve that.. heh -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Sep 20 2006, 11:46 AM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
that guy can take a beating though
-------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Sep 20 2006, 12:37 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
nice...
i'd love to grab 400+ spell dmg on my balance druid and get some screenshots of the carnage that follows. unfortunately there's hardly any guilds out there that would let a druid touch any of that nice spell dmg stuff. and high spell dmg isn't too tough to get as a clothie... my priest has about +220 spell dmg & he's never set foot in anything higher than UBRS. |
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Sep 20 2006, 02:15 PM
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Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
I just can't imagine a Pally in +dmg gear...
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Sep 20 2006, 04:18 PM
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#720
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 28-February 06 Member No.: 96 |
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