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Sep 18 2006, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Sep 18 2006, 01:53 PM) 40 years is a relatively short time. we still have people alive that remmeber that time period in all it's gory horror. but how many people who participated in and lived through WW2 or older are in a position of power today? |
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Sep 18 2006, 01:21 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 18 2006, 01:10 PM) but how many people who participated in and lived through WW2 or older are in a position of power today? a bottom gunner on one of the planes that bombed hiroshima is mayor of plainview -------------------- |
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Sep 18 2006, 01:28 PM
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yeah because we all know the mayor of plainview is a position of power
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Sep 18 2006, 01:49 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (impala454 @ Sep 18 2006, 01:28 PM) yeah because we all know the mayor of plainview is a position of power i was gonna get into a big and informational post about how i was using that as an example to show that those people still have influence today, but i gotta go to work, so i'll just replace it with "shut up fattie" -------------------- |
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Sep 18 2006, 02:07 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
k i'll leave it at that then... fag
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Sep 18 2006, 02:22 PM
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![]() New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
I feel that it is more out of selfishness rather than a desire to preserve peace that people havent gone nuke crazy yet. Think about it: one considerably sized nuke set off and the whole world would be up in arms bombing the shit out of each other. The weapons are there as a scare tactic but unless you get a totally wacky ruler in a nation, they wont be used for selfish fear of retaliation.
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Sep 18 2006, 02:40 PM
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![]() Your Private Eye Group: Members Posts: 252 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 60 |
QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Sep 18 2006, 02:21 PM) a bottom gunner on one of the planes that bombed hiroshima is mayor of plainview One of the planes? Did you mean the one the dropped the atomic bomb? And if so... the Enola Gay only had one gun position, in the tail. |
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Sep 18 2006, 02:47 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (John6.7 @ Sep 18 2006, 02:40 PM) One of the planes? Did you mean the one the dropped the atomic bomb? And if so... the Enola Gay only had one gun position, in the tail. Actually the B-29 has two bottom turrets, but they are remote controlled by the assistant flight engineer and the radar operator. I am fairly sure you are correct though, the bottom turrets (there were 2) were removed to allow for extra passengers (10,000 rounds of ammo is a lot of weight). Bockscar dropped 'Fat Man' on Nagasaki. It's Asst. Flight Engineer was: Staff Sgt. Ray Gallagher Radar Operator: Staff Sgt. Edward Buckley Enola Gay dropped 'Little Boy' on Hiroshima. Asst. Flight Engineer: Sergeant Robert Shumard Radar Operator: Sergeant Joe Stiborik Enola Gay carried a modified crew (smaller) because they were unsure of what was going to happen when the bomb dropped. I don't see "Anderson" (Plainview's mayor) on either flight's manifest. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Sep 18 2006, 02:55 PM
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![]() From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (Jessica @ Sep 18 2006, 01:24 PM) honestly, i see it from both sides. I dont think its that liberals or conservatives dont know whats best. It sometimes is a good idea to repeatedly attempt diplomatic relations because going to war would cost thousands of lives, especially if the people arent backing a dictator govt. I dont know. I think its kind of pointless to point fingers at liberals or conservatives on this issue. Many think that the other side has an extreme-type view and thats not the case. Liberals feel conservatives always want war and vice versa when a lot of times that just isnt the case. ... I.... I.... _agree_ with something Jessica said. -------------------- Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Sep 18 2006, 02:55 PM
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![]() Your Private Eye Group: Members Posts: 252 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 60 |
Ya, the Silverplated B-29 were stripped down to nothing.
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Sep 18 2006, 11:39 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
QUOTE (John6.7 @ Sep 18 2006, 02:40 PM) One of the planes? Did you mean the one the dropped the atomic bomb? And if so... the Enola Gay only had one gun position, in the tail. he was escort, if i remember correctly. there WAS escort planes until the safe distance was cleared. -------------------- |
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