Vince Young is Mentally Retarded Options

[nickluto]

the 16 was the second time he took it, and the person of average intelligence scores at least a 20

yeah, there were too many swinging chads so he demanded a recount of his retest

supreme court case pending....

[celebritygooner]

According to sportscenter he got a 16 on his test not a 6.  Either way he's going to flop in the NFL, look at the way he throws the ball. Did anyone else see him do the skills competition? his accuracy and distance throwing sucked.

Ryan Leaf and Jeff George had perfect throws, Kurt Warner has no distance and Mike Vick isn't that accurate.
Anyone who says Vince Young is going to be a flop is dogpiling on him for no reason.

I hope Vince Young's team lets him play a wide open, play-action style offense ... I am interested to see if that can work in the NFL. The only way Vince will flop is if he ends up playing for an Andy Reid or a Bill Parcells or a Bill Bellicheck, somebody who doesn't allow him to, as Justin Blalock said, "do what the man does."

Maybe even moreso than Mike Vick, Vince Young has to have an offense built around him, not the other way around.

I think he'll be good ... I just think it's hillarious in the meantime that he'd make a 6 on that test.

[moebary]

Ryan Leaf and Jeff George had perfect throws, Kurt Warner has no distance and Mike Vick isn't that accurate.
Anyone who says Vince Young is going to be a flop is dogpiling on him for no reason.

I hope Vince Young's team lets him play a wide open, play-action style offense ... I am interested to see if that can work in the NFL. The only way Vince will flop is if he ends up playing for an Andy Reid or a Bill Parcells or a Bill Bellicheck, somebody who doesn't allow him to, as Justin Blalock said, "do what the man does."

Maybe even moreso than Mike Vick, Vince Young has to have an offense built around him, not the other way around.

I think he'll be good ... I just think it's hillarious in the meantime that he'd make a 6 on that test.

The reason I don't think he'll be that good in the NFL is because I don't see an NFL team catoring an offense to him.

[celebritygooner]

Who would a weak team spend a 5ish pick on a potential franchise player who they aren't planning on building around?

[moebary]

Who would a weak team spend a 5ish pick on a potential franchise player who they aren't planning on building around?

You can't win in the NFL being one-dimensional. Vince's athletic ability will only take him so far in the NFL. There will be defensive players who will catch him and will hurt him if he runs as much as he did in college.

[celebritygooner]

You can't win in the NFL being one-dimensional. Vince's athletic ability will only take him so far in the NFL. There will be defensive players who will catch him and will hurt him if he runs as much as he did in college.

He doesn't have to run every play to win (Jammal Lord would have to do that and that's why Jammal Lord isn't an NFL quarterback).

But that shotgun option offense isn't useless.

Vince Young is both taller and stronger than Mike Vick -- he can see over the line, which will allow him to throw from the pocket in certain times where Mike Vick can't, and he is strong enough to break out of arm tackles and run over some defensive backs.

Vince Young is already as good a passer as Vick, and he'll get better (NFL coaching even fixed Chris Simms, I mean good God ...).

I'm not rooting for the guy, but Vince Young is going to be good.

And even if he's awful, his size and strength makes a much better gadget receiver than Randle-El.

[koreanp1e]

raise your hand if you've done any of the following:

-won two Rose Bowl MVP's
-won a National Championship
-gone 30-2 as a starter for a major D1 college football program
-got drafted #3 overall in the NFL
-recieved a $10 mil signing bonus from your employer
-signed a contract for $50 mil to work


anyone?

doesn't mean we can talk shit about him being a retard.

[moebary]

He doesn't have to run every play to win (Jammal Lord would have to do that and that's why Jammal Lord isn't an NFL quarterback).

But that shotgun option offense isn't useless.

Vince Young is both taller and stronger than Mike Vick -- he can see over the line, which will allow him to throw from the pocket in certain times where Mike Vick can't, and he is strong enough to break out of arm tackles and run over some defensive backs.

Vince Young is already as good a passer as Vick, and he'll get better (NFL coaching even fixed Chris Simms, I mean good God ...).

I'm not rooting for the guy, but Vince Young is going to be good.

And even if he's awful, his size and strength makes a much better gadget receiver than Randle-El.

I can see him being a successful receiver, but I just think that if Young is ever going to be a good NFL QB it will take time. Just my opinion.

I also think that him being taller than Vick is negligible considering Young's release point.

This post has been edited by moebary: Mar 1 2006, 10:28 PM

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He doesn't have to run every play to win (Jammal Lord would have to do that and that's why Jammal Lord isn't an NFL quarterback).

But that shotgun option offense isn't useless.

Vince Young is both taller and stronger than Mike Vick -- he can see over the line, which will allow him to throw from the pocket in certain times where Mike Vick can't, and he is strong enough to break out of arm tackles and run over some defensive backs.

Vince Young is already as good a passer as Vick, and he'll get better (NFL coaching even fixed Chris Simms, I mean good God ...).

I'm not rooting for the guy, but Vince Young is going to be good.

And even if he's awful, his size and strength makes a much better gadget receiver than Randle-El.

Stop comparing him to Mike Vick. If you're willing to admit that he's going to end up like Mike Vick then comparing them is awesome(by which I mean being constantly injured because a quarterback can't run in the NFL without getting the shit beat out of him). Sure Young can see more than Vick, but the way he throws the ball gives him about the same height.

Sure the shotgun option offense isn't useless in the NFL but you better bet your quarterback's going to get fucking rocked every now and then.

[JRockTTU]

He doesn't have to run every play to win (Jammal Lord would have to do that and that's why Jammal Lord isn't an NFL quarterback).

But that shotgun option offense isn't useless.

Vince Young is both taller and stronger than Mike Vick -- he can see over the line, which will allow him to throw from the pocket in certain times where Mike Vick can't, and he is strong enough to break out of arm tackles and run over some defensive backs.

Vince Young is already as good a passer as Vick, and he'll get better (NFL coaching even fixed Chris Simms, I mean good God ...).

I'm not rooting for the guy, but Vince Young is going to be good.

And even if he's awful, his size and strength makes a much better gadget receiver than Randle-El.

Mack Brown says that the less they tried to coach him, the better he got. That's not good for a guy, saying that when you try to teach him fundamentals he gets worse.

[moebary]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...ht&lid=tab5pos2

[James]

I think it's kind of cool that he chose his uncle and a friend of the family as advisors/agents. I think you can trust these kind of people more. So what if he gets a million less because he doesn't have a sharp negotiator. He's still going to be making more money than if he wasn't playing football.

I also think it's awesome that he met the president in the jeans and sweatshirt. I bet Bush was wishing he didn't have to wear that stuffy suit, too.

[jwttu]

I think it's kind of cool that he chose his uncle and a friend of the family as advisors/agents. I think you can trust these kind of people more. So what if he gets a million less because he doesn't have a sharp negotiator. He's still going to be making more money than if he wasn't playing football.

I also think it's awesome that he met the president in the jeans and sweatshirt. I bet Bush was wishing he didn't have to wear that stuffy suit, too.

i think having the family friend is what is hurting him right now. If he would have had an experienced agent we probably wouldn't have heard about a bad Wonderlic score or anything like that.

[James]

i think having the family friend is what is hurting him right now. If he would have had an experienced agent we probably wouldn't have heard about a bad Wonderlic score or anything like that.

The problem that a lot of people are having is putting themselves in his shoes. Fortunately for him, these people are not him. If he starts complaining about how he's hurting, then you can say he's hurting, but until then, he's not hurting. Sports analysts are just bored and looking for something to write about.

[celebritygooner]

I can see him being a successful receiver, but I just think that if Young is ever going to be a good NFL QB it will take time. Just my opinion.

I also think that him being taller than Vick is negligible considering Young's release point.

It takes time for every quarterback not named Ben Roethlisberger to get it right, you can't knock a guy just because he's not Ben Roethlisberger.

Stop comparing him to Mike Vick. If you're willing to admit that he's going to end up like Mike Vick then comparing them is awesome(by which I mean being constantly injured because a quarterback can't run in the NFL without getting the shit beat out of him). Sure Young can see more than Vick, but the way he throws the ball gives him about the same height.

Sure the shotgun option offense isn't useless in the NFL but you better bet your quarterback's going to get fucking rocked every now and then.

If we don't want to compare him to Mike Vick, I'll make (perhaps) a more appropriate comparison to Randall Cunningham. Cunningham played till he was, like, 75. He lost a step as he got older, but he compensated by doing other things, and, arguably, his fundementals got better as he played.

Why so much emphasis on his release point? It doesn't matter if your throw can clear the line if you can't see over the line to find the recievers. I'll take a sidearm 6'5" guy over an overhand 6' any time.

Mack Brown says that the less they tried to coach him, the better he got. That's not good for a guy, saying that when you try to teach him fundamentals he gets worse.

Mack Brown's coaching just made Chris Simms worse, but he seems to have grown out of it.