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[FORSAKENR320]

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My head hurts

i agree

[impala454]

little do you know that timothy mcveigh was a just a fall guy for the real perpetrators of the oklahoma city bombing... the same perpetrators of the 9/11 bombing... our own government

clinton was too busy gettin head to organize somethin like that

[Psykopath]

i'm pretty sure you've said something similar about Christianity and/or Christians.

i'm assuming it's because of all the crusades and hypocrites?

Specific groups: Westboro Baptist, and the like for example...yes.

ALL Christians? Perhaps once or twice here on Techsans, mainly out of jest or temporary anger.


The Crusades and famous Christian hypocrites do not help that certain relion's cause, that's for sure.

[impala454]

gimme a break

yeah lets form our opinions of christians through events that happened almost 1000 years ago, or off of some people who represent like 0.001% of the whole.

[Mommy]

Specific groups: Westboro Baptist, and the like for example...yes.

ALL Christians? Perhaps once or twice here on Techsans, mainly out of jest or temporary anger.


The Crusades and famous Christian hypocrites do not help that certain relion's cause, that's for sure.

so you can say remarks like that, but heaven forbid I say "towel head". Additionally, I said they needed to have PROOF. If I really didnt care about the people, dont you think that I would have left that out? Honestly, I think its weird how you are quicker to take their side than you are a Christian's. If Im not mistaken, you are all like "oh gee oh my they are treating the terrorist suspects poorly." Its odd to me. They want to kill thousands. I dont think they should be tortured, but I dont shed a tear when they are

[Mommy]

gimme a break

yeah lets form our opinions of christians through events that happened almost 1000 years ago, or off of some people who represent like 0.001% of the whole.

yes. exactly. I will agree to this.



Thats every hippy's excuse...THOSE NASTY CHRISTIANS DID IT 500 YEARS AGO SO THEY ARENT ANY BETTER. Guess what? Muslims have been acting like this since before the Crusades...and today they STILL are at it. Hmmm makes you think

This post has been edited by Jessica: Aug 18 2006, 04:49 PM

[Testm0nkey]

gimme a break

yeah lets form our opinions of christians through events that happened almost 1000 years ago, or off of some people who represent like 0.001% of the whole.

islam is the second largest religion - fanatics are very few in number considering the size, just like christianity

whats your feelings on nazis? i mean they were killing jews left and right althought it was 70 some odd years ago.
they may feel the same but only a certain few do anything about it anymore

christians killed people left and right 500 some odd years ago (the crusades is not the last time major killing and massacres happened in the name of their god - hello discovery of the new world and "converting" native people)
sure we arent lopping off peoples heads off or castrating them anymore but there are some that still feel that way (fanatical christian groups)

and no muslims havent been "acting this way" for thousands of years

[Mommy]

islam is the second largest religion - fanatics are very few in number considering the size, just like christianity

whats your feelings on nazis? i mean they were killing jews left and right althought it was 70 some odd years ago.
they may feel the same but only a certain few do anything about it anymore

christians killed people left and right 500 some odd years ago (the crusades is not the last time major killing and massacres happened in the name of their god - hello discovery of the new world and "converting" native people)
sure we arent lopping off peoples heads off or castrating them anymore but there are some that still feel that way (fanatical christian groups)

and no muslims havent been "acting this way" for thousands of years

When they can pretty much make their own army with ONE fanaticalist group, yeah thats not so small in number anymore.

Nazis STILL want Jews and other minorities done away with. Yeah, there are still people that consider themselves to be Nazis. That argument goes out the window.


Christianity as a whole was very dark for about 600 years which includes the Crusades and the conquering of native people here in america. How long has the Muslim religion been like that? Since around the 8th or 9th century. Remember how the Moors (Muslims) conquered Spain.

[Testm0nkey]

the nazi statement wasnt an argument it was to illustrate an example

Christianity as a whole was very dark for about 600 years which includes the Crusades and the conquering of native people here in america. How long has the Muslim religion been like that? Since around the 8th or 9th century. Remember how the Moors (Muslims) conquered Spain.

what....
christian rome persecuted pagans, jews etc etc
so you are saying christianity has been equally as violent as the other major religion
yes

[Mommy]

the nazi statement wasnt an argument it was to illustrate an example


what....
christian rome persecuted pagans, jews etc etc
so you are saying christianity has been equally as violent as the other major religion
yes

you used it in a context as to argue that it happened 70 years ago so its not going on anymore in an attempt to devalidate what Impala said.

Its still going on today. Christian persecution towards Jews on the other hand is not. Thanks for playing

[Testm0nkey]

is the united states not a christian nation? have we not almost continously bombed the middle east for how many decades now? jews arent the only people that matter

love the attitude haha




annnnd topic dies WOOHOO

[Seussninja]

whats your feelings on nazis?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

[Psykopath]

so you can say remarks like that, but heaven forbid I say "towel head". Additionally, I said they needed to have PROOF. If I really didnt care about the people, dont you think that I would have left that out? Honestly, I think its weird how you are quicker to take their side than you are a Christian's. If Im not mistaken, you are all like "oh gee oh my they are treating the terrorist suspects poorly." Its odd to me. They want to kill thousands. I dont think they should be tortured, but I dont shed a tear when they are

You're so cute when you present an e-attitude! Keep it up and maybe you'll move out of the apathetic zone so common to our generation.

I love how you and impala completely twisted what I said. Remember how I said "out of jest or brief anger (brief as in my feelings were temporary and are not a reflection of my true attitudes)" when referring to 'blanket Christian bashing'? Nope? Ok, re-read please.

Did I say that because of the Crusades and certain fanatical groups that suddenly ALL Christians are bad? Nope.
Osama Bin Laden gives a bad name to Islam just as Pat Robertson gives a bad name to Christianity. Unfortunately, these two get a lot of air-time in their respective regions. And in the opposite region, they are believed to be the norm (in many instances).

I'm not quicker to take any one person or group's side or an issue. I look at both sides of an arguement and make a judgement based off of what information/proof/evidence I have before me. Try it sometime, it's a cool way to logically discuss an issue (addressed to both Jessica and Impala).


Play nice, kids.

[impala454]

Psykopath I have no ill feelings towards muslims at all. I know that it's a select group of radicals causing all the problems. It's the position I've always held. And I called you out on your "crusades didn't help Christianity" because it was a stupid comment that's not related to Christians today.

And the comparison to the Nazi regime doesn't make much sense either as it's not really a religion, and I'm not sure any good could ever come out of being a Nazi.

People are not terrorists because of religion. They're terrorists because they hate us and want to inflict pain and suffering on us (Americans). Some of them may use their religion as an excuse, but it simply boils down to hate. There are tons of other countries that are primarily Christian, why haven't they been attacked? The last major terror attacks have been on England (who has been our biggest ally) and us. They're attacking the United States, not Christianity. They hate us because they're on top. Just like it's easy to hate the number one team when it aint yours.

oh yeah and call me a kid all ya want... you were in jr high when i was in college

[Dogmeat]

i love god. yay.