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Hartmann
post Aug 9 2006, 12:08 PM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5258722.stm

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Mr Chavez rounded on Israel at the weekend, accusing the Jewish state of committing a "new Holocaust".


Yeah, 1,000 vs. 6+million dead... those are comparable.

I am not saying the deaths are right, but this seems like a Jew bash if I've ever seen one. The problem is that people are one side or the other, which isn't right. Jewish deaths aren't right and neither are Lebanese deaths. We just need to understand that Hezbollah is at the center of this entire mess and their leader has vowed to destroy Israel.


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post Aug 9 2006, 12:20 PM
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http://www.techsans.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1769

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post Aug 9 2006, 12:38 PM
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Here is an honest question: Is there any other way that Israel could go about this whole problem and still protect herself?

I dont see any other way. Does anyone here?

Yes, its sad that people in Lebanon are dying, but some terrorist group in Israel isnt vowing to destroy Lebanon. I see what Israel is doing as necessary.
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post Aug 9 2006, 03:11 PM
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Personally, I don't really think either side is in the right in this conflict. Hezbollah goes and bombs something, so Israel goes in and bombs the country, killing civilians in the process. Hezbollah gets mad because civilians died and destroys something else. Israel gets mad because hezbollah bombed something and goes in and bombs the country killing more civilians, causing hezbollah to cause more terror.

It's a never ending cycle and neither side is willing to give.


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post Aug 9 2006, 04:20 PM
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Hezbollah is supported by the leader of Iran. Iran was said to have had a part in North Korea's testing of long-range test missiles that happened around July 4th. If that doesnt make you think, I dont know what should.
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post Aug 9 2006, 04:24 PM
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Hey we've got some hunches about the rest of the Axis of Evil working together...


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post Aug 9 2006, 06:39 PM
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post Aug 9 2006, 09:25 PM
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I wish Israel would completley wipe Syria and Iran off the map for us quite frankly....


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post Aug 9 2006, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Aug 9 2006, 09:25 PM)
I wish Israel would completley wipe Syria and Iran off the map for us quite frankly....

i wouldn't even bitch if the US funded them 100% to do that

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post Aug 10 2006, 06:48 AM
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What I find intriguing and hysterical at the same time is the fact that people are complaining about deaths from Israeli bombs (though people have been warned to leave) while most of deaths from Hezbollah's rockets have been Israeli Arabs... So they're killing Arabs and the Israelis are killing Arabs.


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post Aug 10 2006, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE (Hartmann @ Aug 10 2006, 07:48 AM)
What I find intriguing and hysterical at the same time is the fact that people are complaining about deaths from Israeli bombs (though people have been warned to leave) while most of deaths from Hezbollah's rockets have been Israeli Arabs... So they're killing Arabs and the Israelis are killing Arabs.

yeah, Israel dropped a shit ton of papers in specific over Lebanon these past couple of days warning them that those are sites that are going to be targeted and they need to leave. I know that sucks because they are having to leave their homes and jobs and schools, but at least they get to keep their lives. Hezbollah is out to destroy Israel.
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post Aug 10 2006, 12:28 PM
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you're forgetting one point there jason


hezbollah doesn't just bomb "something"


they suicide bomb coffee shops and libraries where innocent people are enjoying their life in peace....



You're right. Both sides are inflating this conflict to extreme levels, but in Israel's defense....Hezbollah, Hamas, and at least 80% of the muslim world has vowed to see Israel wiped from the map. Now you tell me (if you were an israeli) how you'd feel about the muslims.


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post Aug 10 2006, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE (pysex @ Aug 10 2006, 01:28 PM)
you're forgetting one point there jason


hezbollah doesn't just bomb "something"


they suicide bomb coffee shops and libraries where innocent people are enjoying their life in peace....



You're right. Both sides are inflating this conflict to extreme levels, but in Israel's defense....Hezbollah, Hamas, and at least 80% of the muslim world has vowed to see Israel wiped from the map. Now you tell me (if you were an israeli) how you'd feel about the muslims.

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post Aug 10 2006, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE (pysex @ Aug 10 2006, 01:28 PM)
you're forgetting one point there jason


hezbollah doesn't just bomb "something"


they suicide bomb coffee shops and libraries where innocent people are enjoying their life in peace....



You're right. Both sides are inflating this conflict to extreme levels, but in Israel's defense....Hezbollah, Hamas, and at least 80% of the muslim world has vowed to see Israel wiped from the map. Now you tell me (if you were an israeli) how you'd feel about the muslims.

Yes. But on the other hand, many muslims were displaced to give the Israelis Israel. Now you tell me (if you were an Arab) how you'd feel about Israel. smile.gif

I agree with you. It's wrong for Hamas/Hezbollah to kill innocent civilians. It's also wrong for Israel to do the same.

I mean, it's like watching an old married couple argue for hours over something because neither side is willing to admit that they've ever done anything wrong. Only instead of it involving the air conditioner or grandpa's driving, it involves innocent lives and violence.


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post Aug 10 2006, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE (pysex @ Aug 10 2006, 12:28 PM)
you're forgetting one point there jason


hezbollah doesn't just bomb "something"


they suicide bomb coffee shops and libraries where innocent people are enjoying their life in peace....



You're right. Both sides are inflating this conflict to extreme levels, but in Israel's defense....Hezbollah, Hamas, and at least 80% of the muslim world has vowed to see Israel wiped from the map. Now you tell me (if you were an israeli) how you'd feel about the muslims.

This is the one thing that really pisses me off,

People (UN anyone?) are always bitching about Israel killing civilians. But they always conveniently forget that while Israel takes more than the required steps (leaflets warning civilains of impending attack) and only kills civilians on accident (not that it makes it any better), Hamas and Hezballah are out to specifically kill civilians.

You don't see Hamas suicide bombing a fucking army outpost, no, you see them blowing up a sedar or a busy coffee shop. You don't see hezballah's rockets specifically targeting israeli military, no, you see them shooting blindly and hitting homes and apartment complexes.

So next time you want to get on Israel's ass for killing civilians, you should take a step back and remeber that the people they are fighting target civilians on purpose.


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