Living Wage OK'd in Chicago Options

[FORSAKENR320]

anything is livable

look at those fucks on the infomercials in africa with flys crawling on their eyeballs

poverity, yes. livable...well they're living

it takes alot to kill a bloated ethiopian child. i know.



i've tried

[Mommy]

it doesn't seem like too many people on here know exactly what poverty means, do they jim? but, they sure are gonna argue like they know first hand what being poor is like.



internet lol

there was a time in my life when i was?

[impala454]

I give about as much sympathy to poor people crying to the govt to get them more money as I do to the fat people who try to sue McDonalds. It's funny how people often look everywhere except themselves for the situation their in, and want everyone except themselves to try to bail them out. Someone suggested minimum wage needs to be raised with inflation... well guess what inflation is practically a direct result of minimum wage.

My answer on how to fix this? The govt free condom truck. Have it drive around shitty areas and pass em out. If people aren't able to have kids they don't give a shit about, they won't grow up to be worthless losers. The condoms that occasionally break will give us just enough people to run the wal marts & fast food restaurants.

[Spectatrix]

Someone suggested minimum wage needs to be raised with inflation... well guess what inflation is practically a direct result of minimum wage.

Yeah, I know... it's a nasty little catch-22.

[chook]

Yeah, I know... it's a nasty little catch-22.

I think inflation is based much more on the energy market.

[Billy]

Someone suggested minimum wage needs to be raised with inflation... well guess what inflation is practically a direct result of minimum wage.

Inflation is not a direct result of minimum wage. Inflation is made up of many things. All of which relate to how much money is in an economy. Goverment spending, trade, wealthy immigrants, etc all also effect inflation.

Right now, goverment spending is in the billions of dollars a year. The question is, compared to other things, how much inflation is caused by raising the minimum wage? I don't think anyone here really knows. Is it significant to even blame minimum wage for a rise in inflation? Again, no one here knows.

Everyone here talks about inflation like it's the end of the world. But is it? Sure, prices of everything generally increase with inflation, but so do wages. And how many people here have a lot of debt from student loans? You'll really benefit from inflation if you have fixed interest. Inflation also benefits the stock market. Generally, the stock market improves during inflationary times. And God knows our market could use the boost right now. So I really don't think the inflation argument holds a lot of water.

My question to many of you who claim it's "doable" to live on the current minimum wage: have you done it?

Probably not.

[pebkac]

Inflation is not a direct result of minimum wage. Inflation is made up of many things. All of which relate to how much money is in an economy. Goverment spending, trade, wealthy immigrants, etc all also effect inflation.

Right now, goverment spending is in the billions of dollars a year. The question is, compared to other things, how much inflation is caused by raising the minimum wage? I don't think anyone here really knows. Is it significant to even blame minimum wage for a rise in inflation? Again, no one here knows.

Everyone here talks about inflation like it's the end of the world. But is it? Sure, prices of everything generally increase with inflation, but so do wages. And how many people here have a lot of debt from student loans? You'll really benefit from inflation if you have fixed interest. Inflation also benefits the stock market. Generally, the stock market improves during inflationary times. And God knows our market could use the boost right now. So I really don't think the inflation argument holds a lot of water.

My question to many of you who claim it's "doable" to live on the current minimum wage: have you done it?

Probably not.

Minimum wage wouldn't be doable for a person who has kids at all.

[impala454]

My question to many of you who claim it's "doable" to live on the current minimum wage: have you done it?

Believe it or not cable tv & air conditioning aren't required for life to continue.

[Dogmeat]

My question to many of you who claim it's "doable" to live on the current minimum wage: have you done it?

Probably not.

Yes and no. I've worked minimum wage jobs in the interim of finding full-time permanent employment on several occasions in my life while completley supporting myself....Keep in mind I didn't start college until I was almost 22 years old ... The point I was trying to make in another thread, and I know Christine echo'd this, is if you are even remotley motivated it is NOT impossible to find a job that pays more than minimum wage. I've worked temp jobs that paid more than minimum wage even, and what it means is you learn to live within your means....EG, get off the damned drugs, stop drinking, all of that....It's really only been in the last 5 years I haven't had to worry about any of that

I'm just saying, it's still possible to live off minimum wage, but considering that if you're doing that full-time permanent, you're also probably more than likley living in subsidized housing, among other things.... If you aren't, you're basically too lazy to even go stand in the welfare line and I really don't pity you at all in that case...

Like I said, most people who start out at minimum wage jobs don't stay at minimum wage jobs if they're motivated people, and if the person isn't motivated, then that's their own damned fault....

[Spectatrix]

My question to many of you who claim it's "doable" to live on the current minimum wage: have you done it?

Probably not.

Well, sorta. When I was younger, my mother and I were being supported by my step-father, who had a job that paid barely more than minimum wage. My mother worked as a subsitute teacher for a while, but that was only a few months out of several years of living like that. He was paid low wages, but partially made up for it by working 7 days a week -- weekdays at a convenience store and weekends at a hardware store.

[Billy]

Well, sorta. When I was younger, my mother and I were being supported by my step-father, who had a job that paid barely more than minimum wage. My mother worked as a subsitute teacher for a while, but that was only a few months out of several years of living like that. He was paid low wages, but partially made up for it by working 7 days a week -- weekdays at a convenience store and weekends at a hardware store.

So why don't we just go ahead and re-legalize slavery? Because that's what it seems to take to just 'live' at minimum wage. The complete sacrifice of your own life, to make someone else rich.

Yeah, that seems like a fair society.

[Mommy]

Believe it or not cable tv & air conditioning aren't required for life to continue.

have you been listening to the news lately? deaths all across the country as a result of the heat. 100 degree weather without air conditioning can in some cases be deadly. seriously, i think the problem in this thread is the inability for people to step outside of their own little world and into the world of someone else.


additionally,

Someone suggested minimum wage needs to be raised with inflation... well guess what inflation is practically a direct result of minimum wage.

You're retarded....if that is the case, how come inflation is currently going on in every aspect of our country, yet minimum wage has been the same for 10 years?

[Mommy]

So why don't we just go ahead and re-legalize slavery?  Because that's what it seems to take to just 'live' at minimum wage.  The complete sacrifice of your own life, to make someone else rich.

Yeah, that seems like a fair society.

another extension of my point. Its great that people do all the work and get paid barely enough to get by (as some of you are saying) while the people who sit on their ass all day make millions. Oh yeah, thats so fair.

This post has been edited by Jessica: Jul 31 2006, 05:14 PM

[Dogmeat]

Jessica I think you have it backwards ... I really do.

By and large, the people who are millionairs have worked their asses off to become that way, with the exception of rock stars or hollywood actors mainly. The thing I don't think a lot of people realize is that by becoming that way in life you really only create more work for yourself. It's not easy being that rich ...

Given there are many heirs and whatnot to billion-dollar fortunes that probably don't qualify for this, but I think for the very large part of it this is true....You don't get to be that rich without being smart about things and working your ass off.

[Mommy]

Jessica I think you have it backwards ... I really do.

By and large, the people who are millionairs have worked their asses off to become that way, with the exception of rock stars or hollywood actors mainly. The thing I don't think a lot of people realize is that by becoming that way in life you really only create more work for yourself. It's not easy being that rich ...

Given there are many heirs and whatnot to billion-dollar fortunes that probably don't qualify for this, but I think for the very large part of it this is true....You don't get to be that rich without being smart about things and working your ass off.

mentally working hard...yes. physically working hard...not so much.


are we saying that mental capabilities is more important than physical?