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post Jul 22 2006, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 22 2006, 07:11 PM)
Yeah, I'm not sure what exactly the ACLU and like ilk think the government will be able to do with the information on ID cards. Oh geez, they'll know our name, address, SSN, height, weight, and eye color? Uhhh.... so?

While I must admit I have a gut reaction against the idea of a national ID system, I can't really reason my way into rationally disliking the idea.

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post Jul 23 2006, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE (M1N10N @ Jul 22 2006, 10:09 PM)
identity theft

You think the government would perpetuate identity theft? Ouch, that WOULD be scary. Or are you afraid of people hacking into the system?


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post Jul 23 2006, 10:10 AM
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Its not the "government" i am worried about, its the individual people inside teh government and the populous itsef. By making everything standardized and easier to keep track of, it just makes it easier for people to unrightfully get a hold of that information and more information at once.
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post Jul 23 2006, 11:14 AM
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Oh ok, I see what you're saying.


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post Jul 23 2006, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE (M1N10N @ Jul 23 2006, 11:10 AM)
Its not the "government" i am worried about, its the individual people inside teh government and the populous itsef. By making everything standardized and easier to keep track of, it just makes it easier for people to unrightfully get a hold of that information and more information at once.

I disagree. I think if the government could come up with a standardized way to catalogue and inventory that kind of personal info, it would help make identity theft a bit tougher to commit.

My opinion on the national ID card is a big "meh." I really don't think it's a big deal one way or another. This means that instead of saying Texas, my drivers license will say USA? Worst case scenario, I have to carry TWO IDs in my wallet.


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Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome!



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post Jul 23 2006, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE (pebkac @ Jul 23 2006, 11:25 AM)
My opinion on the national ID card is a big "meh." I really don't think it's a big deal one way or another. This means that instead of saying Texas, my drivers license will say USA? Worst case scenario, I have to carry TWO IDs in my wallet.

Well with the Real ID system, it won't *technically* be a national ID. They're still state-issued and should have the state listed on them, but I think the layout, information listed, and documentation needed to get the card are all standardized.


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post Jul 23 2006, 12:19 PM
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Yeah, see Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_ID_Act#N...es_and_ID_cards


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post Jul 23 2006, 12:27 PM
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we're all going to be laughing at this 40 years from now when we're all waiting in line to get the government mandated thought-monitoring chips implanted in our brains so that they can read our minds even .... we will all be ashamed at ourselves for scoffing at this idea ha ha ha!


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post Jul 23 2006, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jul 23 2006, 01:27 PM)
we're all going to be laughing at this 40 years from now when we're all waiting in line to get the government mandated thought-monitoring chips implanted in our brains so that they can read our minds even .... we will all be ashamed at ourselves for scoffing at this idea ha ha ha!

Look on the bright side. At least the koolaid will be good.


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Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome!



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