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 Jul 22 2006, 07:56 AM
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 Decepticon Commander Group: Members Posts: 269 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Lubbock Member No.: 44  |
QUOTE Story last updated at 12:58 a.m. Thursday, July 20, 2006 Driver's license fees could jump 300 percent with new law, official says ASSOCIATED PRESS AUSTIN (AP) - Texans applying for or renewing drivers' licenses could pay much higher fees and wait in longer lines once a federal law standardizing cost takes effect in 2008, a state lawmaker says. Texas fees could jump to more than $100 from the current $24, a 300 percent increase, when the federal government begins requiring states to issue uniform drivers' licenses, what many consider a de facto national identification card, said state Sen. Leticia Van De Putte, D-San Antonio. The change also would eliminate online and mail renewals and would require renewing motorists to produce Social Security cards and birth certificates in person at Department of Public Safety offices. Van De Putte got briefed on the new state-issued, federally approved licenses because next month she will become president of the National Conference of State Legislatures. Source: http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories/07200...072006078.shtml --------------------  |
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Jul 22 2006, 08:10 AM
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 New son Donovan Charles Mummert born July 17, 2008 Group: Members Posts: 8,635 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Port Wentworth, GA Member No.: 15 |
fuck that. I'll move out of the US
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Jul 22 2006, 08:59 AM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
what the fuck?
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Jul 22 2006, 09:05 AM
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 Group: Members Posts: 706 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 20 |
sounds like there will be more people without drivers licenses and insurance.
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Jul 22 2006, 09:30 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
QUOTE (dauss @ Jul 22 2006, 09:05 AM) sounds like there will be more people without drivers licenses and insurance. QFT. A slight increase in fees is fine, but quadrupling the price? wtf? -------------------- |
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Jul 22 2006, 09:54 AM
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 ROCKPACALYPSE NOW Group: Members Posts: 1,519 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 13 |
What, you dont want your overpriced RFID USA ID card that will be required if you want to travel via plane/bus and to enter federal buildings ? why not !?
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Jul 22 2006, 09:59 AM
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 monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
QUOTE (Rocky @ Jul 22 2006, 10:54 AM) What, you dont want your overpriced RFID USA ID card that will be required if you want to travel via plane/bus and to enter federal buildings ? why not !? quoting for seriousness. why not? |
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Jul 22 2006, 12:12 PM
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 Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
Why?
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Jul 22 2006, 12:12 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jul 22 2006, 09:59 AM) quoting for seriousness. why not? The two main concerns, as I understand them are: 1) Cost. Will the new cards be "tamper-proof" enough to justify the high cost of the new system? The total cost is estimated at $2.5 billion, according to the ACLU. That's not terribly high, but it's nothing to sneeze at. 2) Privacy. Along with national standards for issuing ID's comes database sharing between the states. While this in itself is not bad, with it comes the temptation to the federal government to use that information illegally or in legally questionable ways. -------------------- |
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Jul 22 2006, 01:27 PM
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monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 22 2006, 01:12 PM) The two main concerns, as I understand them are: 1) Cost. Will the new cards be "tamper-proof" enough to justify the high cost of the new system? The total cost is estimated at $2.5 billion, according to the ACLU. That's not terribly high, but it's nothing to sneeze at. 2) Privacy. Along with national standards for issuing ID's comes database sharing between the states. While this in itself is not bad, with it comes the temptation to the federal government to use that information illegally or in legally questionable ways. yeah but how else are the hippie leeches going to get their communis--- ehh, socialized health care system? because people can't just show up and get it for free like they already do now, so we need a huge project and system to track it all, duh. this is exactly the kind of thing that happens when the fucking left bitches and whines and lobbies and wastes taxpayer dollars trying to get, and then complains when it actually happens because the government is "intruding" and "trying to control their lives". and why should our government have the right to know who is actually in this country? that's just crazy talk. |
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Jul 22 2006, 01:45 PM
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 Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jul 22 2006, 02:27 PM) yeah but how else are the hippie leeches going to get their communis--- ehh, socialized health care system? because people can't just show up and get it for free like they already do now, so we need a huge project and system to track it all, duh. this is exactly the kind of thing that happens when the fucking left bitches and whines and lobbies and wastes taxpayer dollars trying to get, and then complains when it actually happens because the government is "intruding" and "trying to control their lives". and why should our government have the right to know who is actually in this country? that's just crazy talk. Communism and Socialism are actually two very different things. Just FYI. -------------------- |
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Jul 22 2006, 02:12 PM
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 Oh baby bring me down  Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jul 22 2006, 01:45 PM) Communism and Socialism are actually two very different things. Just FYI. one is an ideal, the other an implementation of that ideal. -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Jul 22 2006, 04:12 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (chook @ Jul 22 2006, 03:12 PM) one is an ideal, the other an implementation of that ideal. but the definition of each ideal (and how it would be/is implemented) is also quite different. -------------------- |
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Jul 22 2006, 04:20 PM
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 From Atlantis to Interzone Group: Global Moderators Posts: 2,512 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Somewhere in space and time Member No.: 65 |
QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jul 22 2006, 02:27 PM) yeah but how else are the hippie leeches going to get their communis--- ehh, socialized health care system? because people can't just show up and get it for free like they already do now, so we need a huge project and system to track it all, duh. this is exactly the kind of thing that happens when the fucking left bitches and whines and lobbies and wastes taxpayer dollars trying to get, and then complains when it actually happens because the government is "intruding" and "trying to control their lives". and why should our government have the right to know who is actually in this country? that's just crazy talk. People can get healthcare for free now? That explains why the health of low-income Americans is roughly equivalent to that of a third world banana republic! -------------------- QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2006, 09:51 PM)  Holy shit, pebkac, you're awesome! "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Theodor Seuss Geisel (AKA Dr. Seuss) "An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all." - Oscar Wilde |
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Jul 22 2006, 07:11 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
QUOTE (lamont's lament @ Jul 22 2006, 01:27 PM) and why should our government have the right to know who is actually in this country? that's just crazy talk. Yeah, I'm not sure what exactly the ACLU and like ilk think the government will be able to do with the information on ID cards. Oh geez, they'll know our name, address, SSN, height, weight, and eye color? Uhhh.... so? While I must admit I have a gut reaction against the idea of a national ID system, I can't really reason my way into rationally disliking the idea. -------------------- |
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