 Marine Recruiter from 'Fahrenheit' Remembered |
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| Marine Recruiter from 'Fahrenheit' Remembered |
 Jul 8 2006, 07:39 PM
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 Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35  |
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/07/08/2...renheit-mourned
He was killed by a roadside bomb June 26. The words that he has to say about the Iraqi people, the men he recruited, and his family are gut wrenching. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jul 9 2006, 01:07 AM
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 Oh baby bring me down  Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
This is a sad event.
-------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Jul 9 2006, 02:59 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 59 |
Yes, we must always portray our soldiers as loving, giving, and self-less. Otherwise moral will go down.
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Jul 9 2006, 03:08 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (prefix @ Jul 9 2006, 02:59 PM) Yes, we must always portray our soldiers as loving, giving, and self-less. Otherwise moral will go down. I saw an interview with this guy while he was in Iraq and the kids loved him. Not because he gave them chocolate but because he made sure they were taken care of. We don't portray all soldiers this way... Just look at some of the news coming out of Iraq right now. What I would like is an explanation from Michael Moore. Maybe I'll act like I am doing a documentary about "great" documentaries and tell him that he's going to be one of the model characters. Then turn around and make him out to be the fat slob that he is. -------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jul 9 2006, 06:52 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 59 |
Sorry I mean dead soldiers.
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Jul 9 2006, 07:11 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
QUOTE (prefix @ Jul 9 2006, 06:52 PM) Sorry I mean dead soldiers. And what's wrong with remembering good about the deceased? Maybe we should just bring out everyone's dirty laundry when they die... 
-------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jul 9 2006, 10:42 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 59 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jul 9 2006, 07:11 PM) And what's wrong with remembering good about the deceased? Maybe we should just bring out everyone's dirty laundry when they die... I'm just sick of seeing these fucking stories. And today _________ died in Iraq. He was a good high school student, _________________________________________. A bunch more garbage about how awesome he was, end of story. |
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Jul 9 2006, 10:49 PM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
QUOTE (Hartmann @ Jul 9 2006, 07:11 PM) And what's wrong with remembering good about the deceased? Maybe we should just bring out everyone's dirty laundry when they die... hmm... i guess the same can't be said about kenneth lay -------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Jul 9 2006, 11:13 PM
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 monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
QUOTE (pysex @ Jul 9 2006, 11:49 PM) hmm... i guess the same can't be said about kenneth lay yeah but his laundry is dry cleaned and pressed every day before it's delivered to his doorstep |
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Jul 9 2006, 11:22 PM
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I was raised on the dairy, BITCH! Group: Members Posts: 3,080 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Cedar Park Member No.: 49 |
hey charlie
-------------------- "Ah, y'know it's funny, these people they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good. They wake up the next day and they're on fire."
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Jul 9 2006, 11:27 PM
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monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
HEY ALEX
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Jul 10 2006, 06:09 AM
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Group: Admin Posts: 3,403 Joined: 23-February 06 From: PDX/TXL Member No.: 35 |
The fact that they are soldiers is what makes them inherently selfless. Yes, deep down, they may have reasons for being a soldier other than saving lives, etc. but because they are over there and they chose the life makes them selfless. It isn't you over there being shot at.
-------------------- "There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: that of the fashionable non-conformist." |
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Jul 10 2006, 08:20 AM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
I agree with hartmann that soldiers are selfless and sacrificing a lot. I believe there's a lot of them in it for other reasons but if never before they know how dangerous it can be. I have a family member over there and am very proud of him.
I also agree with prefix bc I'm sick of seeing "_____ died today in Iraq" stories. The media doesn't air/print these stories because they care about the soldiers they do it because they're trying to tug the heartstrings and get people to take their side. I guarantee during Vietnam where tens of thousands died there wasnt a damn 5 min feature on the news about each dead soldier how he was the football team captain in high school. |
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| Guest_CANNONBALL_* |
Jul 10 2006, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE (prefix @ Jul 9 2006, 10:42 PM) I'm just sick of seeing these fucking stories. And today _________ died in Iraq. He was a good high school student, _________________________________________. A bunch more garbage about how awesome he was, end of story. until you put your own personal life, freedom, and choices on the shelf you will never know how selfless and noble serving is. that said...serviceman can and have been reprobates...liars, rapists, murderers... but as shitty as they are, they have at least done one thing noble in their life. you might try to argue the merits of whether serving is noble or not...but they would be unbased...because of the nature of the word itself: "serving"...voluntarily...to protect you...period. do not ever confuse the calling of serving in the military with a political ideology (I think many uninitiated younger people do just that...and that is a farce). leaders change...the house changes...if one was to base serving their country on who was in office at the time, we would be royally fucked. but you have the right to be as tired of the stories as you want...for whatever reason you want. due to the efforts of the guy whom the story is about. |
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| Guest_CANNONBALL_* |
Jul 10 2006, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 10 2006, 08:20 AM) I agree with hartmann that soldiers are selfless and sacrificing a lot. I believe there's a lot of them in it for other reasons but if never before they know how dangerous it can be. I have a family member over there and am very proud of him. I also agree with prefix bc I'm sick of seeing "_____ died today in Iraq" stories. The media doesn't air/print these stories because they care about the soldiers they do it because they're trying to tug the heartstrings and get people to take their side. I guarantee during Vietnam where tens of thousands died there wasnt a damn 5 min feature on the news about each dead soldier how he was the football team captain in high school. no instead the country hated and disrespected the vets. (based mainly on politics...over which the vets, many drafted, did not control). and as a whole america felt terrible about it starting in the late 70's...guilt is a heavy burden and thus are trying to ensure that will never happen again in this "our vietnam". they will bash the president, cabinet, decision makers all day long (and should if they disagree with the decisions). but the vets are hands off. I think this is a good thing. overkill? perhaps...but better than the previous slant. |
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