 KKK in midland |
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| KKK in midland |
 Jun 20 2006, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 20 2006, 04:46 PM) To those defending the KKK's right to "protest": Isn't the Klan a registered terrorist organization? Pretty sure not, but I don't feel like researching it right now to find out for sure. QUOTE So would you support Al Quaeda's right to protest...hmmmm, say Christianity or Bush on the streets of midwestern America? Umm, yes? If it's a peaceful protest, whoever can protest whatever they want for all I care. And by peaceful I mean both not being violent themselves and not provoking others (like shouting racial epithets, for instance). I don't agree with the KKK's agenda, but I also don't think that all of their members are necessarily mobbing, lynching murderers. Many of them may be violent towards minorities, but thinking that they all are is just as fallacious as assuming that all fundie Christians bomb abortion clinics. -------------------- |
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Jun 20 2006, 04:59 PM
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 Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 20 2006, 05:46 PM) To those defending the KKK's right to "protest": Isn't the Klan a registered terrorist organization? So would you support Al Quaeda's right to protest...hmmmm, say Christianity or Bush on the streets of midwestern America? I didn't know terrorists organizations were registered, but I wouldn't give two shits about what any organization thinks about anything. Which is why you'll never find me spending a nice saturday afternoon holding up signs trying to convince others to see things my way. I enjoy debating but not when it requires that much effort. QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 20 2006, 05:46 PM) Oh that's right: White people can't be terrorists! Gotta protect those white "Americans" (Nobody in the KKK is an American to me). Remember: the face of terrorism today is only brown. Timothy McVeigh? Ted Kaczynski? |
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Jun 20 2006, 05:07 PM
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 Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
Hate speech though...come on, that's pretty fucked up to let it go on anywhere, anytime. Would you let the KKK preach against minorities outside of an inner-city elementary school?
By "registered terrorist organization" I mean officially on the list of terrorist organizations as recognized by the government. It has been since the 1871 Civil Rights/KKK Act. Impala: I said the face of terrorism today, silly! That comment you quoted was more sarcastic than anything else. This post has been edited by Psykopath: Jun 20 2006, 05:07 PM -------------------- |
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Jun 20 2006, 05:20 PM
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 monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
QUOTE (Spivey @ Jun 20 2006, 05:48 PM) Yawn for the win |
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Jun 20 2006, 05:38 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 6,906 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9 |
QUOTE (Psykopath @ Jun 20 2006, 05:07 PM) Hate speech though...come on, that's pretty fucked up to let it go on anywhere, anytime. Would you let the KKK preach against minorities outside of an inner-city elementary school? They were protesting illegal immigration. There may have been hate speech involved, there may not. No, I wouldn't let them preach against minorities outside of an inner-city elementary school because that would be INCITING VIOLENCE. Shit, Zach, I know damn well that you know the difference between a peaceful protest and a hateful/violent one. QUOTE By "registered terrorist organization" I mean officially on the list of terrorist organizations as recognized by the government. It has been since the 1871 Civil Rights/KKK Act. As far as I can tell, that act gave blacks legal recourse against all-white courts that were reluctant to prosecute KKK members for lynchings. That doesn't mean it was put down on a list somewhere as a registered terrorist organization. In fact, it doesn't look like the Klan is mentioned in the text of the act itself, only the title: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_Act_of_1871. In fact, Wikipedia says: QUOTE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan) In 1882, long after the end of the first Klan, the Supreme Court ruled in United States vs. Harris that the Klan Act was partially unconstitutional, saying that Congress's power under the fourteenth amendment did not extend to private conspiracies. Besides, the modern Klan is a different organization than that targeted by the 1871 act. This post has been edited by Spectatrix: Jun 20 2006, 05:39 PM -------------------- |
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Jun 20 2006, 06:55 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 23-February 06 Member No.: 59 |
QUOTE There may have been hate speech involved, there may not. Herm, it's the klan; I'm betting on the fact that there was. On another note why did everyone jump on the violent hippie bandwagon. I said everyone was so hippy for not wanting to kick some ass, not that hippies were violent. |
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Jun 20 2006, 09:27 PM
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 Let's Bother Snape!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Albuquerque, NM Member No.: 10 |
God damn are you people stupid.
Read your fucking Constitution and shut the fuck up. --------------------  |
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Jun 20 2006, 09:35 PM
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Why so serious? Group: Global Moderators Posts: 5,286 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Fate, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (Jim @ Jun 20 2006, 10:27 PM) God damn are you people stupid. Read your fucking Constitution and shut the fuck up. best arguement EVER. Damn, just broke my sarcasm meter. This post has been edited by Psykopath: Jun 20 2006, 09:35 PM -------------------- |
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Jun 20 2006, 11:01 PM
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 Oh baby bring me down  Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
QUOTE (Jim @ Jun 20 2006, 09:27 PM) God damn are you people stupid. Read your fucking Constitution and shut the fuck up. forgot your comma ! -------------------- Southern Rock, beer and bears!
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Jun 20 2006, 11:11 PM
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 Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Jim @ Jun 20 2006, 09:27 PM) God damn are you people stupid. Read your fucking Constitution and shut the fuck up. Interpretation? -------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
-Philip K. Dick |
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Jun 21 2006, 12:23 AM
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 Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 23-February 06 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 37 |
QUOTE (griseyeux @ Jun 20 2006, 12:55 AM) As a social experiment, I think I'll go out tomorrow, stand in the middle of Texas ave and start singing "fuck the police" in a normal voice, without threatening violence to anyone and just see what happens, because that's my opinion. Please do this. |
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Jun 21 2006, 01:24 AM
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 GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
i don't think there is ENOUGH hate speech
what happened to the good for many outweighing the good of a few? everyone having to adjust their opinions because it MAY offend 1 person is stupid. don't censor yourself because some jackass can't deal with the fact you don't like him --------------------  QUOTE (Jessica @ May 7 2007, 01:15 PM)  but yeehaw dammit. YEEHAW QUOTE (Dogmeat @ Jun 26 2008, 07:51 PM) ok once upon a time I jacked myself off retarded. Licking anuses, one kindergarten class at a time!! |
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Jun 21 2006, 05:49 AM
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monogamous gays & stem cells Group: Members Posts: 3,789 Joined: 22-February 06 Member No.: 8 |
QUOTE (FORSAKENR320 @ Jun 21 2006, 02:24 AM) i don't think there is ENOUGH hate speech what happened to the good for many outweighing the good of a few? everyone having to adjust their opinions because it MAY offend 1 person is stupid. don't censor yourself because some jackass can't deal with the fact you don't like him damn fucking straight, bacon man the first amendment wasn't written to protect nonoffensive speech, it is mean to protect what some people feel is offensive (see: hateful) speech, no matter how distasteful hippies or minorities think it is. |
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Jun 21 2006, 08:54 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
while i'm sure there was some racial bigotry going on from the KKK, their intent was to speak out against the immigration policy, which is a hot topic. the hippies might have done themselves good to actually have some counter-opinion rally on that subject rather than just going there as a mob to try to "drown out" others opinions.
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