pentagon crash video, released Options

[Timbo]

This footage is OLD, like a month after the attacks old, 2001.

Saw it on the BBC, in a documentary. Frightening shit. Probably a missle, too

Timbo

[GhostofTHECHICKE...]

Why is this such a radical idea?

In the Spanish-American war the USS Maine was sunk in Havana Harbor, Cuba (which was later highly theorized to be an inside job) was used as justification for intervention in Cuba and liberation of the Phillippines.

In WWI, the sinking of the Lusitania (a passenger vessel that was later learned to have weapons, ammo, and food for the british war effort, unbeknownst to the crew/passengers) was cited as the cause for US intervention

In WW2, there was Pearl Harbor, which a lot of people theorize the U.S. knew about but was just lackidasical to respond to.

In vietnam there was the Gulf Of Tonkin incident that was later thought to be a total hoax, no US war ship was shot at and if it was, probably by US munitions.

And in the War in the middle east, terrorism is being used.

This may or may not be a conspiracy, but given what has happened in the past, why is this such a "radical" idea?

as a matter of fact, as logic would have it, i should think that YOU were the fringe lunatics given the record of planned conspiritorial attacks v. genuine provocation.

sigh...

so because something causes us into action like in the past

and you are stupid enough to think the current one is a conspiracy

= all the other incidents were



Havana is still not known as to what caused it, but the only theories are that it was a munitions accident, was the spanish, or was the cubans wanting our help by framing the spanish... NOT US MURDERING OUR OWN CITIZENS

Pearl harbour: Conspiracy is we knew it was gonna happen ahead of time...
NOT THAT WE MURDERED OUR OWN CITIZENS

etc. etc.

You people have NOTHING... ,let me repeat NOTHING, to go off of for a good argument, so you make it up as you go. You see a shitty camera view with lots of motion blur, and instead of using the obvious fact of THATS THE PLANE HITTING THE BUILDING ON A SHITTY CAMERA VIEW, you say "well since i can't see the obvious with this camera.... ITS A MISSLE!!!!!!"

Oh and not to forget the "they haven't shown us the cameras from the hotel or gas station!!!" argument: You realize they haven't given back cameras from the jfk assasination right? And its not because its a conspiracy, its because the government doesn't make top priority of giving back evidence... they just could care less whether the people get it back or not. It was evidence and when they are done with it they just move on to other things.

Anyhoo, in conclusion... i think its a huge conspiracy and the pentagon, twin towers and other plane were all government planned. More over, everything that has ever happened in the past is simply something devised by the bush administration for the sheer goal of enslaving the human race so meglatrons can rule the planet. ALL HALE MEGLATRONS!

[Seeker]

weak

[GhostofTHECHICKE...]

weak

forgot, logic isn't allowed here, ill leave you Professors to your superiour intellect (minus evidence) now

[nickluto]

 

forgot, logic isn't allowed here, ill leave you Professors to your superiour intellect (minus evidence) now

for every "MIT expert" you cite, i will cite 5.


from NIST, from MIT, from wherever the hell you want....

it doesnt matter what the "experts" think, because most of the "experts" all think its bullshit.


it matters what you think....

i dont even care that you agree with me, i just care that you think for yourself

if you can justify what happeend by saying things like "GRAVITY and heat can do a LOT of damage from that high in the air" ...so be it, but you should just realize how fucking stupid and sheepish you sound.

[Testm0nkey]

i may have missed it but where is seth's 'factual evidence' that it was a plane hit ? all i read by him is how its obvious its not a missle

[GhostofTHECHICKE...]

for every "MIT expert" you cite, i will cite 5.


from NIST, from MIT, from wherever the hell you want....

it doesnt matter what the "experts" think, because most of the "experts" all think its bullshit.


it matters what you think....

i dont even care that you agree with me, i just care that you think for yourself

if you can justify what happeend by saying things like "GRAVITY and heat can do a LOT of damage from that high in the air" ...so be it, but you should just realize how fucking stupid and sheepish that sounds.

lol i love it when you post... so funny


What MIT expert evidence have you shown?

And heat warps, gravity brings things down... thus heat and gravity do lots of damage... please tell me you aren't THAT stupid heh... dont bother answering that

[nickluto]

lol i love it when you post... so funny


What MIT expert evidence have you shown?

And heat warps, gravity brings things down... thus heat and gravity do lots of damage... please tell me you aren't THAT stupid heh... dont bother answering that

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248


Titled: MIT Engineer Breaks Down WTC Controlled Demolition

Thank you. Have a Nice Day !

[GhostofTHECHICKE...]

i may have missed it but where is seth's 'factual evidence' that it was a plane hit ?  all i read by him is how its obvious its not a missle

he was refering to me putting up evidence contrary to everything he said on the towers falling.

This one i have simply said it can't really be made out WHAT it is, thus ill go with ocams razor of it being the plane.

Dont get me wrong, i love conspiracies as much as the next guy, but come on, getting all pissy because i say it is to blurry to be known at all is just funniness.


Anyway, im gonna stop commenting on it from the rational perspective, because ya'll wanna talk conspiracy, so ill be a good sport and let you, i've said my peace.

Sorry for the panty twists

[GhostofTHECHICKE...]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248


Titled:  MIT Engineer Breaks Down WTC Controlled Demolition

Thank you. Have a Nice Day ! 

google video fun


Have fun, i've shown the logical view point of how everything on towers could simply have happened how its believed... im satisified nuff.

If i can though, ill find one with good music


occam's razor

[pebkac]

Ok, perhaps you guys could answer a question for me. If the flight didn't crash into the pentagon what happened to it? I mean, it's not like American Airlines could have very well just lost it in between the cushions of their couch.

[Testm0nkey]

i suppose whereever 'flight 93/153' disappeared to

[pebkac]

Which would be?

[nickluto]

  google video fun


Have fun, i've shown the logical view point of how everything on towers could simply have happened how its believed... im satisified nuff.

If i can though, ill find one with good music   


occam's razor

That's fine.


If you consider occam's razor though, consider the following: there are no paradoxes.

If you find one, check your premise, because it will most undoubtedly be incorrect.

Ok, perhaps you guys could answer a question for me. If the flight didn't crash into the pentagon what happened to it? I mean, it's not like American Airlines could have very well just lost it in between the cushions of their couch.

We may never know, the FAA is under a gag order from the government not to talk about the events of 9/11....if the "conspiracy" didnt happen, why the gag order? What might they possibly not want us to know?

The simple question of why? is all that remains....

If all the events occured factually as represented in the 9/11 comissions report, they must therefore be able to be accounted for by the FAA flight controllers, emergency responders etc...but they are all under gag order...

[GhostofTHECHICKE...]

That's fine.


If you consider occam's razor though, consider the following: there are no paradoxes.

If you find one, check your premise, because it will most undoubtedly be incorrect.

Ok, perhaps you guys could answer a question for me. If the flight didn't crash into the pentagon what happened to it? I mean, it's not like American Airlines could have very well just lost it in between the cushions of their couch.

We may never know, the FAA is under a gag order from the government not to talk about the events of 9/11....if the "conspiracy" didnt happen, why the gag order? What might they possibly not want us to know?

The simple question of why? is all that remains....

If all the events occured factually as represented in the 9/11 comissions report, they must therefore be able to be accounted for by the FAA flight controllers, emergency responders etc...but they are all under gag order...

what the hell are you talking about? Ockhams razor states that in a answering a question or "phenomenon", the principle recommends selecting those that introduce the fewest assumptions and postulate the fewest hypothetical entities.
(or go with the most obvious)

The question of what happened on 9/11, put through occams razor, (to most people i would guess) is that men hi-jacked planes and drove them into things.

Instead of adding all kinds of assumptions of, it was planned ahead of time by our own government, we hid planes and people for the hoax , people ahead of time set charges to destroy a building, missles were designated and fired at two places by other conspirators at a different location. Plus assuming everyone involved is perfectly loyal to the cause and keeping the secret, and assuming no one would see these missiles and if so have been silenced or discredited. Also have to assume the osama admitting thing is fake (planned), etc...


ockhams razor