More 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Options

[impala454]

then just wait till its over and post in large bold letters HORSE SHIT

heh well i'll prob do that anyways

[impala454]

one thing i dont get is if they're taking all these eye witness accounts and talking about them real time on the news, how come all these accounts are saying a plane hit the pentagon?

it's also extremely surprising to me that there could be secondary explosions in a building that's a virtual self-contained city burning with jet fuel.

[GhostofTHECHICKE...]

videos like this have to be taken with a grain of salt.

The whole pentagon thing we've been over. i still believe it absolutely could have been the jet plane...

the whole releasing the videos that pointed at the pentagon thing is legit, but in the jfk assassination there was "video confiscated and not returned" and we know that the conspiracy there is crap.... its just the gov. not putting a priority on giving back stuff they used as evidence.

oh, and the whole gold being moved ignores the fact that it could have been moving on a normal day too... so big deal.


The only thing i see that im like WTF MATE would be the one building collapsing due to fire. The twins where hit with extreme force to weaken its structure before they fell (so helps to explain why they fell), but the other building that fell is interesting.

It trys to show the explosions that where used in the dropping of the towers... BY PUTTING PURPLE BOXES OVER THEM. Show me them in real time, because they could be a number of different things (like the supports buckeling at that spot).

hell google gave me this: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/
which has a video about the layout of the wtc, and why its different construction compared to other "normal" high rises could have let it be more inclined to fall.
Hell it kind of explains those supposed "explosions" as the supports falling downward and hitting the windows.

so, yeah... not so convinced yet... occam's razor to me still shows terror attacks, call me crazy. Like what would have been the point at all for the plane that crashed in the field?... (or didn't, whatever). it didn't serve any purpose to take those people off the plane, hide them, and pretend they just randomly crashed in a field. Give me a break

[impala454]

yeah cell phones probably don't work at cruising altitude... but i'm sure terrorists who've hijacked a plane make sure to stay at cruising altitude.

[impala454]

lol it's not bin laden, he was wearing teh gold ring!

[impala454]

aight i'm done (slow day at work)

i'll admit a few things in there are kinda questionable, but on the whole it's just a bunch of small details and sorta half truths that are easily put together to look any way you want. throw in some dramatic music and scrolling text to add emotion and you've got yourself something that will easily convince stupid people.

[schwab]

the pentagon and field crash are the ones i question....wtc not as much

[impala454]

well i could see them covering the pentagon up if that wasn't a plane. it would be mega embarassing to the country and scare the crap out of the whole country that terrorists could get inside the pentagon enough to plant a bomb.

but the idea that we bombed the pentagon ourselves seems pretty off the wall to me. i don't see much motive anywhere.

[schwab]

well i could see them covering the pentagon up if that wasn't a plane. it would be mega embarassing to the country and scare the crap out of the whole country that terrorists could get inside the pentagon enough to plant a bomb.

but the idea that we bombed the pentagon ourselves seems pretty off the wall to me. i don't see much motive anywhere.

but just the fact that none of the plane was around....that just seems really sketchy

as well as the plane that crashed in penn...where the hell is the plane?

one last thing....i really dont see how you "can" phoen from a plane, you can use the plane phones which is reasonable...but not cell phones like they said some people did do

[GOB]

i've seen several videos of bigass plane crashes, and most of the time, almost nothing is left. it's total destruction.

these things were going close to 600 mph, whereas most crashes happen on takeoff or landing, when they're nowhere near their max speed. the subsequent fire didn't help, either, because whatever was left was covered in burning jet fuel, and neither of the two locations outside new york had video coverage for a good amount of time after the crashes.



i'll try to find links to some good videos

[schwab]

i've seen several videos of bigass plane crashes, and most of the time, almost nothing is left. it's total destruction.

these things were going close to 600 mph, whereas most crashes happen on takeoff or landing, when they're nowhere near their max speed. the subsequent fire didn't help, either, because whatever was left was covered in burning jet fuel, and neither of the two locations outside new york had video coverage for a good amount of time after the crashes.



i'll try to find links to some good videos

even in the ones that happen in mid air....the engines are some large pieces are usually still in tact, however, there was more or less no metal in either of those 2 crashes shown

[nickluto]

It trys to show the explosions that where used in the dropping of the towers... BY PUTTING PURPLE BOXES OVER THEM. Show me them in real time, because they could be a number of different things (like the supports buckeling at that spot).

thats what i thought. being a 15 year old high school kid at the time when i saw the towers go down i thought there were bombs int he building.

but imagine the force of gravity "pulling down" on the floors above, and the amount of energy they would release if the support structures were compromised, and the "explosion" you see is just about right.


I think the only thing that i really question is how the plane in Pennsylvania crashed. ive read that there were reports of laboratories in the area measuring seismic activity detecing small disturbances that were "reportedly" the same magnitude that a sonic boom would produce and plane trash (flight mags, material) found in a lake up to a mile away.

I think that the plane might have been shot down by a military aircraft (it's well within the realm of possibility) , but at the same time dont really fault the government with covering it up.

If it did come out that it was shot down, you would have a military pilot come under investigation who had to was ordered and carried out the unspeakable; shoot down a civilian airliner. I think the guilt that he/she might already be faced with would be overkill as is.

[Hartmann]

yeah cell phones probably don't work at cruising altitude... but i'm sure terrorists who've hijacked a plane make sure to stay at cruising altitude.

? My cell phone works at cruising altitude.


I think the point that he was trying to make with the titanium thing is that with titanium within the allow of the aircraft, the creation of a "thermite" fire would have been near impossible. A lot of people have speculated that the metals in the airplane and the WTC when heated created a even hotter reaction, I'm not sure though.

I wish they would release the videos from the gas station and from the hotel, that would clear things up.

There is always things left after a plane crash, no matter the magnitude. Even the AirTran Airways flight that flew straight down into the mud of the Everglades had wreckage that was discernable in pictures and from what I've read they recovered whole chunks of the wing and the engines. It nosedived from around 7,000 feet.

I am not one for conspiracy theories but I am just confused by the whole thing.

[Spectatrix]

? My cell phone works at cruising altitude.

But what about 5 years ago?

[nickluto]

? My cell phone works at cruising altitude.


I think the point that he was trying to make with the titanium thing is that with titanium within the allow of the aircraft, the creation of a "thermite" fire would have been near impossible. A lot of people have speculated that the metals in the airplane and the WTC when heated created a even hotter reaction, I'm not sure though.

I wish they would release the videos from the gas station and from the hotel, that would clear things up.

There is always things left after a plane crash, no matter the magnitude. Even the AirTran Airways flight that flew straight down into the mud of the Everglades had wreckage that was discernable in pictures and from what I've read they recovered whole chunks of the wing and the engines. It nosedived from around 7,000 feet.

I am not one for conspiracy theories but I am just confused by the whole thing.

I read an article that reports that the CEO of Qualcomm (supplier/designer/pioneer of CDMA chipsets, system software, network base stations, handsets[i.e. cell phones as we know it]) went on the record and said that it is near impossible to get a cell signal at cruising altitude because the height and speeds involved, and that Qualcomm is still in the process of developing this technology which should be testable in Q4 2006.