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impala454
post Jul 7 2009, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Jul 7 2009, 04:36 PM) *
Dude. Seriously? http://www.adn.com/palin/story/838912.html

Not saying that they had merit, but she has had a slew of ethics complaints filed against her. The biggest one was "Troopergate".

Was not being facetious, was a serious question. I had heard of the first one, but didn't realize there was a "slew". I suppose I don't consider it a "scandal" unless there is truth to it.


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/0...w.html?wprss=44


Scandals (whether legit or unfounded) generally have that effect.

Right but leaving because you're swamped with legal bills in the hundreds of thousands, and leaving because you can't emotionally handle the negative remarks and accusations are two completely different things IMHO.


(and to cmac's response too)
look at that data, the 93% and two other 80s % are from different sources than the others. These were during the height of the presidential campaign as well. I dont see how in hell logically, she could have seriously gone from that high of an approval rating to that low of one, with how popular she was during the campaign. Losing 10% since the campaign is nothing. Big deal. Losing a presidential election would probably do that. My guess is the 93% and others were bullshit. A number that high is probably pretty rare in politics. I also think approval ratings are a stupid statistic in the first place. They're just a situational number based on what's going on in that person's jurisdiction at the time. Look at Bush's approval ratings. They simply follow the events of the time, whether they were in Bush's control or not. It's like the quarterback. Most popular man on campus when you're winning, most hated when you're losing.
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post Jul 8 2009, 08:13 AM
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Palin is retarded... hope she's out of politics for good. Too bad nancy pelosi can't resign too.


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post Jul 8 2009, 09:25 AM
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Why so serious?


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To those who think she'll be a viable 2012 candidate:

She couldn't take the pressure/heat of public life or handle the workload for a 1 full term as governor of Alaska...yet you want her to be President of the whole damn country?!

wow


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post Jul 8 2009, 11:32 AM
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Somehow I'd imagine frivolous lawsuits and accusations against the President of the United States are handled a little differently. Not to mention, she did something that made financial sense, something that can't exactly be said for the current pres. All of that said, I don't really see her running for President in 2012. Running for some other office or working in Washington or doing something in politics, probably.

Anyhow, the 2012 election should be a cakewalk for anyone even remotely conservative.
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post Jul 8 2009, 12:03 PM
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I think her problem was that she largely didn't know how to handle the press and other media attention. I personally think she couldn't handle the emotional strain of it all. I don't mean that as a criticism really... I know I couldn't handle the strain either. That's part of the reason you'll never see me in politics.

That said, I do see her getting back involved in politics after a break, but not to run for president. I don't know whether 2012 will be a "cakewalk" for conservatives... WAY too early to tell.


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post Jul 8 2009, 12:11 PM
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Well therein lies a huge problem with our country. The president is basically elected nowadays based on how well they handle the media. It didn't used to be that way.
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post Jul 8 2009, 12:27 PM
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Interesting stuff from gallup
http://www.gallup.com/poll/121514/American...ture-Palin.aspx


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post Jul 8 2009, 12:39 PM
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I still see polls like that as meaningless (see the "survey methods" at the bottom of the page) but either way, the Republican party would be idiots not to use her to their advantage.
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post Jul 8 2009, 12:49 PM
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i think at this point "using her" is mostly to their disadvantage.
she was their puppet during the election. a Hillary replacement
she may be seen as supreme to the far right conservatives, but the majority of American voters sit more towards the middle. i think they see right through the "using her" ploy.


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post Jul 8 2009, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (cmac @ Jul 8 2009, 01:49 PM) *
but the majority of American voters sit more towards the middle.

I don't see that this comment has any basis whatsoever. YOU sit more towards the middle perhaps, but just like these 1,000 people polls (laughable) which supposedly determine the entire country's opinions, I don't see it as accurate. Sure Obama got elected, but that was because of minorities, plain and simple.

QUOTE (cmac @ Jul 8 2009, 01:49 PM) *
i think they see right through the "using her" ploy.

I don't mean using her as a ploy. I mean having her play a role in the party. And how could you think anyone would "see right through it" even if it was a ploy? That's sure not what happened during the presidential campaign. She boosted McCain big time. Whether you see this as a ploy or not is irrelevant.
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post Jul 8 2009, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (impala454 @ Jul 8 2009, 04:07 PM) *
I don't see that this comment has any basis whatsoever. YOU sit more towards the middle perhaps, but just like these 1,000 people polls (laughable) which supposedly determine the entire country's opinions, I don't see it as accurate. Sure Obama got elected, but that was because of minorities, plain and simple.


I don't mean using her as a ploy. I mean having her play a role in the party. And how could you think anyone would "see right through it" even if it was a ploy? That's sure not what happened during the presidential campaign. She boosted McCain big time. Whether you see this as a ploy or not is irrelevant.

Are you kidding? Most say that it would have been a LOT closer if that box of rocks hadn't pulled down mcCain. NO ONE wanted that air head to take over as president if McCain croaked. Using her to thier advantage would be giving her a ticket to Alaska and never hearing from her again.

and saying "Sure Obama got elected, but that was because of minorities, plain and simple" is pretty dumb and not really looking at how he got elected at all. I know you don't get any of your opinions from facts, but
seriously...


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post Jul 8 2009, 09:03 PM
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You've got to be smokin something good man... you honestly believe she pulled down McCain???
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post Jul 8 2009, 09:13 PM
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i thought that was common knowledge?


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post Jul 8 2009, 11:58 PM
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i think she pulled votes away from the moderate vote, but definitely gained it in the right-wing vote.


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post Jul 9 2009, 06:53 AM
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QUOTE (cmac @ Jul 8 2009, 10:13 PM) *
i thought that was common knowledge?

This


I mean I know she's a milf, but that was about her only redeeming quality.


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