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[Mommy]

i'm glad you now consider yourself an expert because you put out for a guy in the military

as funny as the mental image is, you CANNOT absorb knowledge through osmosis

Oh yes, because I haven't had to live with the affects of anything he does... you know, the lack of vacation time, the constant field trainings, ... none of that. Oh and what I know of the military does not come from what he tells me (or injects into me with he penis). Most of it comes from a group that I am leader of here at Fort Stewart, the Family Readiness Group. Forget the fact that my husband is gone right now since Monday and won't be back until Wednesday, will be gone again for three weeks in August, will be gone the entire month of October, and then deploys out in December for a year to Iraq, literally 2 weeks before our baby is due.... Yeah, the Army has no affect on my life at all.


I certainly don't try and educate myself on anything since my job is to cook and clean and pop out children.

Seriously, Brandon, live in a hole with your ammo and armor. Just stay out of normal people's way. We'd rather not put up with your kind.

[FORSAKENR320]

But by this logic, nobody on the entire planet is trustworthy, so it's a moot point.

exactly. i don't trust anybody to have my best interest at heart. the only person who you can trust to do everything possible to ensure your safety is yourself.

[impala454]

Meant to say "untrustworthy" but obviously you got my meaning.

[FORSAKENR320]

Oh yes, because I haven't had to live with the affects of anything he does... you know, the lack of vacation time, the constant field trainings, ... none of that. Oh and what I know of the military does not come from what he tells me (or injects into me with he penis). Most of it comes from a group that I am leader of here at Fort Stewart, the Family Readiness Group. Forget the fact that my husband is gone right now since Monday and won't be back until Wednesday, will be gone again for three weeks in August, will be gone the entire month of October, and then deploys out in December for a year to Iraq, literally 2 weeks before our baby is due.... Yeah, the Army has no affect on my life at all.


I certainly don't try and educate myself on anything since my job is to cook and clean and pop out children.

Seriously, Brandon, live in a hole with your ammo and armor. Just stay out of normal people's way. We'd rather not put up with your kind.

nice speech, except it completely ignores what i was saying in the first place. what do YOU know of the military's intentions? what does your husband know? he's a little cog in the big machine, it's not like they're making it known to him what he's ACTUALLY going to be doing. he's a military man. he's expected to sit down, shut the fuck up and not ask questions.

there is prolly a million contengency planes for everything, and prolly the majority of them will either fail to poor planning, or aren't feesible for our military to execute. but because they have the "plan" on paper, they lessen their liability when they fuck up.

[Mommy]

nice speech, except it completely ignores what i was saying in the first place. what do YOU know of the military's intentions? what does your husband know? he's a little cog in the big machine, it's not like they're making it known to him what he's ACTUALLY going to be doing. he's a military man. he's expected to sit down, shut the fuck up and not ask questions.

there is prolly a million contengency planes for everything, and prolly the majority of them will either fail to poor planning, or aren't feesible for our military to execute. but because they have the "plan" on paper, they lessen their liability when they fuck up.

I grew up around the military. I have no problem with it. It protects us. If it weren't for the military, we would not be The United States of America. I think there are bigger issues out there than bitching about the military. You haven't served your country, put your life on the line for the sake of this country or another country so really you can't speak. Sure, my husband hasn't done that yet either; but come December he will be. I have a lot of respect for the people here. It's an infantry brigade, meaning they see a lot of action, lose a lot of men, and fight the fight longer than other types of units. The military in and of itself has only one intention: get the job done. Technically, I think that CCMRF mission is considered unconstitutional by some because the Army is not supposed to be assigned to state matters like that. *shrug* I think it's just the government's way of having a better back-up plan for occurrences like Katrina and 9/11.

You speak so poorly of our military, yet thus far history has shown it to be one of the best in the world, if not the best. Yeah, there are screw ups like Korea and Vietnam, but one the greater scale, we have done well.

It just really seems to me that you have no idea what you are talking about and have NOTHING to back up what you are saying. You just want to have an excuse to have a shit ton of unnecessary weapons and armor. That's cool. You found a hobby, but stop throwing politics in the mix. You sound like an idiot.

[FORSAKENR320]

once again, you completely miss the entire purpose of my comments. how about you sit down, shit out another baby, and shut the fuck up. people who aren't leeching their lifestyle off someone else are talking.

you make it sound like i'm doing nothing but shit-talking the military. just because i don't trust them to protect me as much as they'd like me to believe doesn't mean i don't appreciate them. there IS a difference.

there is more than one way to serve your country, more than one way to risk your life. you admire our military because they put their life at risk, even though we only have a 10% fighting force, and all 100% demand the same respect. i've seen more combat than many of your troops. i've been shot at, i've been injured. and for what? it's a job, sugar-tits. they wouldn't be there if they weren't getting paid for it and benifits. same as myself. patriotism is a rare thing, but it is best brought to the light with a bit of cash incentive.

[Mommy]

I get what you are saying... I have all along. You say you don't trust the military, but they don't decide who or what they are going to invade, attack, protect, etc. The government does. That's my point... a little bit more clearly spelled out for you.

[Mommy]

once again, you completely miss the entire purpose of my comments. how about you sit down, shit out another baby, and shut the fuck up. people who aren't leeching their lifestyle off someone else are talking.

you make it sound like i'm doing nothing but shit-talking the military. just because i don't trust them to protect me as much as they'd like me to believe doesn't mean i don't appreciate them. there IS a difference.

there is more than one way to serve your country, more than one way to risk your life. you admire our military because they put their life at risk, even though we only have a 10% fighting force, and all 100% demand the same respect. i've seen more combat than many of your troops. i've been shot at, i've been injured. and for what? it's a job, sugar-tits. they wouldn't be there if they weren't getting paid for it and benifits. same as myself. patriotism is a rare thing, but it is best brought to the light with a bit of cash incentive.

Yeah, but being a bouncer at a night club (where some of the incidents I'm sure occurred) isn't exactly the most... umm... reputable job.

These people are also away from the families for 6 months, 12 months, 15 months, 18 months.... it wasn't until recently that they put a 12 month cap on Iraq tours.

Just because they aren't being shot at over there does not mean their job is not vital. They still have to be armed and loaded at all times. Why? Because crazy fucks shoot at those who aren't just infantry or cav. They shoot at everyone. Also, some of them are sent on special assignments. My husband took intelligence training pertaining to Arab crap. So, yeah, 90% of the time he will be in a hard cover hospital playing lab tech, but sometimes he has to go out and gather evidence. So, yeah, I think it is important to support our troops... even the ones that aren't sent there to fight.

[FORSAKENR320]

so what bearing does any of the last several rants you've provided have on the fact that i should trust the government/military with my personal safety?

i'll follow one of your tangents, the one where you claim that just because they aren't at physical risk that their job isn't vital. isn't EVERYONE'S job vital for our society? what seperates a military man so that he's deserving of more respect than say, your everyday government worker? you have obviously defined a difference so that they are more "worthy" of being honored, and up until your last post i had assumed that your definition rested with the risk of danger.

you have been justifying why i shouldn't be bad-mouthing the military (even though i haven't) with the "sacrifices" that these people make, (even though the sacrifices you are listing are no different than many civilian jobs) and the entire arguement has absolutely no bearing at all of why i should and should not trust the military.

[Mommy]

If you can't see how my posts are relevant, then you really should be saving every penny to get back into school. I'm done with this asinine argument.

[RitalinJunkie]

I don't think it should be about whether you trust the military or not.....it should be about if your trust the stupid fucks who run it. Which, seeing as how they are the same people who are able to vote pay raises for themselves, rather than use that money to help others (which is their job), and support their constituents over the people they are elected to serve (sometimes a necessity i know, but its the principal of the thing dammit), it doesn't exactly give me reason to trust them with the best interest of anything other than themselves.

[FORSAKENR320]

If you can't see how my posts are relevant, then you really should be saving every penny to get back into school. I'm done with this asinine argument.

i seriously doubt i'm the only person who noticed you arguing for random tangents.... go back to being a chameleon, and taking on the characteristics and personality traits of the person you're involved with...

[Mommy]

i seriously doubt i'm the only person who noticed you arguing for random tangents.... go back to being a chameleon, and taking on the characteristics and personality traits of the person you're involved with...

Oh yes, because I haven't been arguing for troop support on here for the past 4 years....if not longer.

Military roots run deep in my family, sir.

[FORSAKENR320]

Oh yes, because I haven't been arguing for troop support on here for the past 4 years....if not longer.

Military roots run deep in my family, sir.

and thats just it. you're ranting and raving on your soap box about supporting the troops, when the actual arguement is wether or not i should trust them with my life.


brandon:: i like apples
impala:: apples are ok, but i prefer bananas
jessica:: monkeys stink


thats pretty much a representation of your place so far in this discussion

[Mommy]

Dear fucking God, Brandon. How can one person be so stupid??????

I already addressed the trust issue fucking 5 times over. Are you even reading my posts? Yeah, some of it is added bullshit that is just on the side, but I shouldn't have to explicitly say IN REFERENCE TO TRUST every time I post something related to that issue. The CCMRF thing was an FYI thing but also deals with trust. I mentioned past military failures and how they should not sway our trust of our military. I mentioned that the politicians making the laws are the ones to fear, not the military. If that's not good enough of an answer then I don't know what is.

Then you make some comment about me being a chameleon because my husband is in the military, and I said well I've been on this support your troops thing for a while.

Obviously, my final post has nothing to do with trust. It just has to do with the fact that I grew up surrounded by military, and your comment could not be further from the truth. God fucking dammit.