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[chook]

no. i'm just curious. and i think they'll have good stories

using them for your entertainment?

[cmac]

no

[Dogmeat]

BRING BACK BUM FIGHTS!!!!!!!!!

[FORSAKENR320]

BRING BACK BUM FIGHTS!!!!!!!!!

probably the most productive and useful comment in this thread so far.....

[impala454]

I'll donate $50 for bum fights

[chook]

The asshole who started bum fights went to school with my cousin. He is on parallel with the Jerry Springer types.

[FORSAKENR320]

The asshole who started bum fights went to school with my cousin. He is on parallel with the Jerry Springer types.

here is a wierd question::

lets say that the man who created bum fights donated 100% (or the equivelant % of what CMAC is going to donate) of the profits from it to aiding the homeless.....

would he be any different than what cmac is doing now?

[cmac]

i'm not sure my project could even remotely be compared to beating the crap out of bums...

[impala454]

how bout bums beating the crap out of you?

[FORSAKENR320]

i'm not sure my project could even remotely be compared to beating the crap out of bums...

i don't know about that. both of ya'lls means DO exploit the homeless. your way is just approaching more along the pity-angle, and you may feel that you are doing this for a rightious cause. i am not trying to attack you or single you out due to our past of not agreeing with each other...


but pride is a very touchy subject. to me, someone who is voluntarily ignoring all aid from outside sources that are already in place probably won't care too much about having their "story" made public and "pitied"

[FORSAKENR320]

another reason i feel you are exploiting the homeless is because of the "market angle" you're approaching. every homeless person you come across is guaranteed to be a tragic tale of failure, "almosts" and bad luck. why must it be the homeless you get your stories from?


answer me a question, please. why is a homeless mans story so much more interesting that the average, blue-collar man? do you think they've seen more trouble? been through more? shed more tears, etc? to believe that is the absolute epitomy in arrogance. who is to say that the blue collar man hasn't clawed and bitten and dragged himself through hell to carve out an average living for his family and found a place of success?

the truth is, happy endings don't sell anymore. and THATS why you're exploiting the homeless.

[cmac]

another reason i feel you are exploiting the homeless is because of the "market angle" you're approaching. every homeless person you come across is guaranteed to be a tragic tale of failure, "almosts" and bad luck. why must it be the homeless you get your stories from?

because this is the target audience i have chosen to learn more about? if i had chosen to learn more about say tenured professors, would this be exploiting professors? this kind of research goes on in graduate schools all across the country with incentives given in return for information. is it just because i have chosen people that have a stereotypical tough time in life that this is controversial?

answer me a question, please. why is a homeless mans story so much more interesting that the average, blue-collar man? do you think they've seen more trouble? been through more? shed more tears, etc? to believe that is the absolute epitomy in arrogance. who is to say that the blue collar man hasn't clawed and bitten and dragged himself through hell to carve out an average living for his family and found a place of success?

i don't know. this is probably the best way to describe this project. these are things i wish to find out. it mind end up the most boring thing ever where they tell me to get lost , or that standing on street corners is their 9-5. i just don't know. maybe they have families that they're struggling to feed. or maybe they have a significant other that makes 6 figures. i'm willing to bet that some of them have traveled the u.s. or at least have been homeless in denver for quite some time. i'm sure they've seen things that might amaze some people. or maybe they haven't. who knows? and of course tons of blue collar people have struggled just as much if not more. i could probably suggest that the homeless took the easy way out while blue collar is struggling to do the "right thing." people are probably much more curious about the homeless though because they can't directly relate to their problems and issues. most people don't know what it's like to sleep under a bridge at night. i want to tell this story.

like i said, knowledge is the main goal of this project. i'm highly curious. secondly, to make something creative. i have much more of an interest in the photography, crafting the language of the story, and designing the pages in the book, than making any money. i'll probably even sell the books at cost. or just have a stack of them on my own coffee table.

[FORSAKENR320]

because this is the target audience i have chosen to learn more about? if i had chosen to learn more about say tenured professors, would this be exploiting professors? this kind of research goes on in graduate schools all across the country with incentives given in return for information. is it just because i have chosen people that have a stereotypical tough time in life that this is controversial?

while what you say may be true, i still say the spirit of what you're doing is exploiting. i feel you've taken an approach that you KNOW will generate some popular feedback for yourself, on a subject that HAS been done before. oh well. i guess that if you catch some good fish in a particular spot, it'd be stupid to try fishing somewhere else... after all, our entertainment industry has been recycling for the last few decades and it seems to be going well for them, right?

i don't know. this is probably the best way to describe this project. these are things i wish to find out. it mind end up the most boring thing ever where they tell me to get lost , or that standing on street corners is their 9-5. i just don't know. maybe they have families that they're struggling to feed. or maybe they have a significant other that makes 6 figures. i'm willing to bet that some of them have traveled the u.s. or at least have been homeless in denver for quite some time. i'm sure they've seen things that might amaze some people. or maybe they haven't. who knows? and of course tons of blue collar people have struggled just as much if not more. i could probably suggest that the homeless took the easy way out while blue collar is struggling to do the "right thing." people are probably much more curious about the homeless though because they can't directly relate to their problems and issues. most people don't know what it's like to sleep under a bridge at night. i want to tell this story.

like i said, knowledge is the main goal of this project. i'm highly curious. secondly, to make something creative. i have much more of an interest in the photography, crafting the language of the story, and designing the pages in the book, than making any money. i'll probably even sell the books at cost. or just have a stack of them on my own coffee table.

you know, i think i can understand that. hell, i'll prolly even read it to be honest. but just don't kid yourself (or us). you're in it for alot of prestige as well.

i'm sure that writing a yuppie-greenie-style book will get you alot of yuppie-greenie-style-tang... (and i commend you for that, i do... very crafty and male of you to "non-chalantly" have your own book sitting on a coffee table in plain sight while entertaining a large-breasted guest....)

[chook]

The man is on a vision quest! Armed with change....we all can trust!