An Alternate Life, Help support my project Options

[cmac]

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/caseym...a-photo-project

I've started this photo project that I've been interested in since moving here that I'm trying to raise money for. If you can't donate I would appreciate it if you could pass it on to anyone that might be interested. Or even a facebook/twitter post to get the word out would help tremendously.
Thanks everyone for your help.

[Dogmeat]

I don't understand quite what the point of this is ...

[cmac]

raise awareness, sell books, curiosity on my part, create something artistic, become a published author.
it's kind of documentaryish. i think a lot of the homeless have interesting backgrounds and interesting stories and i'd like to share that with other people.

also kind of an offset experience to see the power of the internet and marketing through social media outlets. some random dude just donated $100. that's craziness...

This post has been edited by cmac: May 24 2009, 05:31 PM

[Dogmeat]

you have to have sniffed a LOT of glue in life to be fucking homeless in this country.

srsly.

[pysex]

you have to have sniffed a LOT of glue in life to be fucking homeless in this country.

srsly.

i hope you're joking

you can't be that ignorant

[FORSAKENR320]

with the amount of aid and funding going around to help "special need" people... i also find it pretty unacceptable to be homeless, unless by choice.

[cmac]

i think a lot of it is by choice. especially here. i've been told that panhandlers can make close to 6 figures. obviously tax free.
but there are definitely exceptions.

This post has been edited by cmac: May 24 2009, 10:28 PM

[Dogmeat]

i hope you're joking

you can't be that ignorant

No, not really.

[pysex]

No, not really.

you mean to tell me it's completely impossible that someone who just lost their job with the way the economy is is homeless....

you don't have to be on crack or a drunk to be homeless...sometimes the world can actually fuck you sideways

[impala454]

I have seen stories and studies on homeless people like this, and yeah it seems a lot of them chose it. They simply don't want a home and a job and bills, etc. I admit there is a certain appeal to being completely "disconnected". Which is why during these stories you'd see them being offered jobs or places to stay but they refuse because that's the reason they're out there.

cmac I must admit, while I commend you for making this a "project", I think it's downright pathetic that you're taking donations to do it. You have a college degree and a full time job. You talk about some of them making six figures and then have the gall to ask others for money to give to them? Come on. I find it hard to beleive that you're not going to profit from it when you're charging $30 for your signature.

I will never give a homeless person a cent. I have offered them food before and on multiple occasions had it thrown back in my face. I will definitely not offer it again.

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Sorta off topic, but this brings up another thing that's pissed me off lately. I have been seeing these high school kids out trying to raise money for whatever it is they're doing, taking a trip somewhere or whatever. But it seems nowadays instead of having a car wash or bake sale or doing some kind of productive work, they just stand out on the medians at the stop lights with a bucket and cutesy little posters asking for money. This kinda crap needs to stop. What in the world is that teaching them?

[cmac]

i'm not shocked that out of all the compliments and positive responses, the ONE negative thing would come from impala
a large amount of anything creative created these days is done with contributions from others.
i'm just using my resources wisely.
and i never said i wasn't going to profit from it. all i said was that i didn't want to exploit them. i'm making a freaking donation to help the homeless for god's sake.
and don't think that i'm not using a good portion of my own money too.

[Dogmeat]

you mean to tell me it's completely impossible that someone who just lost their job with the way the economy is is homeless....

you don't have to be on crack or a drunk to be homeless...sometimes the world can actually fuck you sideways

No, they shouldn't be homeless, because my entire life just got devoted to paying for their fucking houses for them

[impala454]

i'm not shocked that out of all the compliments and positive responses, the ONE negative thing would come from impala

my comments weren't the only negative ones, and I see zero positive ones. you keep thinking I have some personal vendetta against you on here. ever think that perhaps I just don't agree with most of what you have to say?

a large amount of anything creative created these days is done with contributions from others.
i'm just using my resources wisely.

it sounds to me like you're using other people's resources

and i never said i wasn't going to profit from it. all i said was that i didn't want to exploit them.

haha ok... you said you don't "wish" to profit from it... massive difference...

i'm making a freaking donation to help the homeless for god's sake.

again, it's others that are making the donation it seems, not you. and IMHO giving them money doesn't help them.

and don't think that i'm not using a good portion of my own money too.

how much?

[cmac]

wow, only you would turn a thread like this into a quote breakdown.

my comments weren't the only negative ones, and I see zero positive ones. you keep thinking I have some personal vendetta against you on here. ever think that perhaps I just don't agree with most of what you have to say?

your comments are the only negative ones i've received directly about the project, and i'm discussing positive that i have received outside of this site. i didn't just promote here believe it or not. i think the three generous donations from random strangers explain this pretty well. people are supporting it, and i'm pleased with the progress. i've gotten $200 from random strangers so far. the power of the internet.

it sounds to me like you're using other people's resources

resources, meaning kickstarter.com, a website created for such thing. twitter.com, facebook.com, digg.com, reddit.com, and others. marketing my project. no one is making anyone donate. if you feel it's a good cause, donate. if not, don't. does self marketing and promotion bother you? does the offering at church bother you, or the "help the cancer patient" bucket at the checkout at the grocery store, or any of the other billion situations where people ask for donations? or shold everyone just do anything at all on their own counts. if people are passionate, they're generous. i've donated money and food to the homeless on my own count before. this is bad in your eyes? granted i don't know their situation but i give them the benefit of the doubt. is there a problem with ambition and asking for contribution to a cause? there are people on kickstarter asking for help producing records and creating iphone apps. is this a problem? is mine more "moral" because i'm donating to an organization. they're offering just as "silly" as "awards" as i am. it seems like a great service that encourages creativity and imagination. positive thngs.

haha ok... you said you don't "wish" to profit from it... massive difference... rolleyes.gif

you took something out of context as usual.
"I don't wish to profit...........from the plight of the homeless or exploit their current state, so a donation will be made to Denver's Road Home organization from the book's proceeds."
In other words, i am not exploiting the homeless. I am giving them money and donating to an organization.

again, it's others that are making the donation it seems, not you. and IMHO giving them money doesn't help them.

i'm toying with giving them giftcards to restaurants or something similar to ensure that they buy something that they need to survive, but i'm not sure yet. who cares who's making the donation. it's my work, and a donation exists. you actually have a problem with where it comes from? you've heard the phrase "a donation will be made in the name of..." right?

how much?

$500 isn't going to cover my costs. so as much as it takes to cover my overhead. probably around 2-300 more.

[impala454]

wah wah wah, emo emo emo. post something like this on techsans and cry about getting criticized. color me surprised.

I really don't feel like quoting right now so I'll just say:

1. How did I take your "I didn't say I wasn't going to profit from this" out of context? To me that says you will possibly profit from it. How else could you possibly spin that? Especially from you charging $50 for a $20 book with your signature in it (lol).

2. I still believe giving the homeless anything is an exercise in futility. What do you hope to accomplish? You're giving a fat person who doesn't want to get in shape a giant chocolate cake.

3. No, my comments weren't the only negative ones. Unless you consider people accusing you of sniffing glue a positive comment.