BOTCHED SCHOOL SHOOTING Options

[FORSAKENR320]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090518/ap_on_...school_shooting

LAROSE, La. – A Louisiana middle school student stormed into a classroom and fired a gunshot over a teacher's head Monday before shooting himself in a bathroom, authorities said. Investigators found a suicide note and plans for a rampage in the teen's journal.

The 15-year-old student, whose name was not released, fired once around 9 a.m. inside a classroom at Larose-Cut Off Middle School, then shot himself in the head, said Lafourche Parish Sheriff Craig Webre. He was in critical but stable condition. The teacher had never taught the teen.

Webre said investigators found a note describing the boy's plans to "gear up" before his spree, along with a drawing of how he'd dress. The boy also scribbled "I am king" and "y'all will die!" on a sheet of paper investigators found.

Although he apparently was intent on killing people, he was armed with only four bullets for the .25-caliber, semiautomatic pistol he had taken from his father's home during the weekend. The boy's mother noticed he seemed nervous before school, but he said he was just worried about seeing his standardized test results, which were released Monday, Webre said.

About 500 sixth-, seventh- and eighth-graders attend the school in a rural community of about 7,000 people, some 45 miles southwest of New Orleans. Webre said the boy had no disciplinary problems at school and hadn't been in trouble with the law. The teen had no reason to be in the classroom, he said.

He was a year or two older than most of his classmates, who described him as a quiet boy who never talked about guns or violence.

Webre said investigators found inside the boy's bookbag a completely filled journal and two loose sheets of paper that appeared to be a plan for the shooting and a suicide note. The school has both standing and handheld metal detectors, but they aren't used all the time and weren't in use Monday.

Webre said the boy arrived at the school in uniform — white shirt, khaki pants — but changed into camouflage pants shown in his drawing. In an expletive-laced note, he wrote, "First, I will tell my art class teacher that I had to go to the bathroom. Then I would go to the last stall and 'gear up.'"

Eighth-grader Dustin Sevin said the boy has been his friend for several years and that he never talked about guns or violence. At the end of second period, his friend said he needed to see the nurse and left with his backpack.

The teen apparently headed to another classroom, walked to the front of the room and pointed the pistol at the whiteboard, said sheriff's spokeswoman Sgt. Lesley Hill-Peters. He tried to fire at the board, but it wouldn't go off. He then stepped forward, pointed the gun at the teacher, raised it and fired a single shot over her head.

Coley Gaspard, 14, said he was in his seventh-grade English and reading class when the boy came in. The teen yelled for everyone to get down, cursing at the class.

Nobody moved. Gaspard knew the boy, whom he described as quiet and nice, and thought it was a dramatic enactment for some sort of lesson. Then, he said, the boy walked over and pointed the gun at the teacher, ordering her to say, "Hail Marilyn Manson," referring to the shock-rock icon, Gaspard said.

She said nothing. He fired into the wall and told another boy to get up. The seventh-grader stayed in his seat, and the teen left.

Hill-Peters, the spokeswoman, said she couldn't confirm Gaspard's account.

"After a situation like this you're going to have a lot of kids, a lot of parents, a lot of people saying a lot of stuff," she said.

The school was scheduled to reopen Tuesday with enhanced security and several counselors on hand.

i am such a d&d geek, that i started listing off all the failed bluffs, intimidate checks, diplomacy, and the attacks......

although, he passed his fortitude save on the critical attack to his head.....

[cmac]

Hail Marilyn Manson

blaming the music, and all the heat that music gets for this kinda stuff bothers me. like how manson got blamed for columbine.

[impala454]

Yeah don't blame the music, blame the guns!

[cmac]

if i hold marilyn manson up to your head and pull the trigger i like your chances

[impala454]

exact same principle, funny that you got called on it.

[cmac]

i got called on it if somehow i stuff ammo up marilyn manson's ass and they come out his mouth at lethal speed.
otherwise, no.

[impala454]

Yes, it's exactly the same principle. Blaming anyone/anything other than the person is stupid. It's just as stupid to blame Marilyn Manson as it is the gun.

[cmac]

and this is the base in our difference of opinion.

[Spectatrix]

Blah blah blah

[impala454]

shaddap you with your tramp shirt

[FORSAKENR320]

i agree with impala.

people who can't be subjegated to and conform to a normal existance in society have no place in it. it's not the fault of what they are exposed to, it's the fault of the person.

this is the normal policy on dealing with "crazy" people. i don't understand where the confusion lies..

[pysex]

i agree with impala.

people who can't be subjegated to and conform to a normal existance in society have no place in it. it's not the fault of what they are exposed to, it's the fault of the person.

this is the normal policy on dealing with "crazy" people. i don't understand where the confusion lies..

what bs

it's a well known fact that how a person's personality is formed is what they are exposed to during the critical development stages of their life....the most important being the social aspect

if that kid started listening to marilyn manson in jr. high...and he found another kid that listened to it and said he liked it...they become friends and then they begin a group of people that like marilyn manson and when you get a group of people that like it they begin to live it....and when you throw in the hodgepodge of other mentally whacked out stuff like his father beating him and calling him a dipshit that's one potent cocktail of dangerous....i can say the same thing about you and D&D...you yourself just said you rolled for his actions...have you done that in the past in other real life situations? how often do you talk about it? play it? so you live it.....

although i do agree that people make their own choices and they can discern the difference between right and wrong...they just choose to do the wrong thing

[impala454]

It doesn't matter that the kid listens to or likes Marilyn Manson. What matters is if Marilyn Manson is the kid's role model/authority figure instead of his parents or some other good role model.

The simple fact is, for every person that blames Marilyn Manson or a gun or some other inanimate object for violence, there are umpteen millions that do the same things that aren't violent.

[THECHICKEN]

Its obviously the guns/Marilyn Manson's fault, definitely not the parents though. Theres only so much they can do, and how can they compete against music and inanimate objects?

[FORSAKENR320]

although i do agree that people make their own choices and they can discern the difference between right and wrong...they just choose to do the wrong thing

and you would still hold music accountable for their actions.... you completely counter yourself


in my experience, the most violent, ass-hatish people with no regard for anyone else's well-being lean towards the popped collar, gap wearing fucks who jam to Sublime and hum the lyrics to "Summertime Girls" surely they are also a product of the music they listen to.