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Apr 22 2009, 06:23 AM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
QUOTE WASHINGTON -- Wading into the politically charged immigration debate, a group of colleges and universities is urging Congress to give illegal immigrants tuition aid and a path to citizenship in light of efforts in several states to block them http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/us_colleg.../21/205388.html I will tear this apart later, I have to go to work right now to work harder so millions on wellfare can depend on me -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Apr 22 2009, 09:19 AM
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![]() Oh baby bring me down Group: Agents Posts: 4,115 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Way out yonder Member No.: 68 |
colleges want more govt money.
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Apr 22 2009, 10:03 AM
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![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 2,499 Joined: 23-February 06 From: El Paso Texas Member No.: 32 |
i think it's bullshit
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Apr 22 2009, 03:30 PM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
"Hmm... how do we solve this problem of illegal aliens?" "I know! Let's offer free college to them! Then they'll never want to come here illegally!"
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Apr 23 2009, 06:08 AM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
colleges want more govt money. Universities are the single biggest waste of taxpayer money on the planet. -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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Apr 23 2009, 07:22 AM
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![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 2,499 Joined: 23-February 06 From: El Paso Texas Member No.: 32 |
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Apr 30 2009, 12:34 AM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
How about you give more money to American students instead of giving tax payer money to dirty illegals? Or better yet provide free universal education.
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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May 1 2009, 05:50 AM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
nothing free is ever worth the cost.....
there is a very good reason why america has such a huge foriegn exchange program for it's colleges... i'd hate to see education go the way the universal health care went... what a genius idea that was.... -------------------- |
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May 1 2009, 06:37 AM
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there is a very good reason why america has such a huge foriegn exchange program for it's colleges... i'd hate to see education go the way the universal health care went... what a genius idea that was.... Hmm, I don't think the US has a quite a monopoly on higher education as some Americans would like to think... Foreign exchange programs are huge in any developed country where classes are taught in English. There are international students here in Germany + Denmark who know no German/Danish but jump through the hurdles to get here and study because the schools are top notch -- and they aren't even free for international kids (for citizens, they are). We always hear politicians touting how many people come to study in the US, however, if I would guess , those numbers are inflated because of the size of the country as well as the desire for international students to learn English better (not necessarily advance in their respective fields). Also, I would be interested to see the ratio between international students from developed countries to developing countries. I am inclined to think that people from developed countries don't bother with studying abroad in the US because they know that they have just as good enough facilities at home. *shrug* -------------------- ![]() |
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May 1 2009, 09:29 AM
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![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,620 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 48 |
I don't think we have monopoly on higher education but I think we have a large majority share. I do not have data to back it up but it has always seemed to me that the K-12 schools of some other countries are much better than ours, while our universities tend to be better than theirs. I think it stems from Asian countries or India that their K-12 kids are in school longer each day, more days per week (6? not sure), and studying more advanced material earlier. While this is great and leads to higher educated kids, IMHO it's also a detriment to them socially. Everywhere I have worked so far I must say that more often than not, the people of one of those foreign origins tends to have a difficult time socially or even just in their communication with their coworkers. I think they feel that it's not important in their K-12 schools but I disagree. It becomes difficult to work with someone who you can't communicate with or have a rapport with.
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May 1 2009, 05:48 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
I don't think we have monopoly on higher education but I think we have a large majority share. I do not have data to back it up but it has always seemed to me that the K-12 schools of some other countries are much better than ours, while our universities tend to be better than theirs. I think it stems from Asian countries or India that their K-12 kids are in school longer each day, more days per week (6? not sure), and studying more advanced material earlier. While this is great and leads to higher educated kids, IMHO it's also a detriment to them socially. Everywhere I have worked so far I must say that more often than not, the people of one of those foreign origins tends to have a difficult time socially or even just in their communication with their coworkers. I think they feel that it's not important in their K-12 schools but I disagree. It becomes difficult to work with someone who you can't communicate with or have a rapport with. i actually read an article concerning something similar. basically, that the success of the american education system over japans is the nuturing of the spirit and free thinking, instead of the book-related intelligence. i don't fully agree with the article, because i feel that america's education system is very stifling for creativity, but compared to japans, i think we are much better off for the reason that you mentioned, impala -------------------- |
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May 1 2009, 06:52 PM
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![]() DEATH TO ....something? Group: Members Posts: 5,618 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Parker, CO Member No.: 55 |
i actually read an article concerning something similar. basically, that the success of the american education system over japans is the nuturing of the spirit and free thinking, instead of the book-related intelligence. i don't fully agree with the article, because i feel that america's education system is very stifling for creativity, but compared to japans, i think we are much better off for the reason that you mentioned, impala If you're a whack ass professor, you can get government money to hang a bunch of dildos from your ceiling by rope and call it a fucking art project .... and our education system is stifled for creativity? -------------------- I r Ur Gawd!
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May 1 2009, 07:07 PM
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![]() GORILLA FLUFFER Group: Agents Posts: 7,711 Joined: 23-February 06 From: lubbock Member No.: 50 |
If you're a whack ass professor, you can get government money to hang a bunch of dildos from your ceiling by rope and call it a fucking art project .... and our education system is stifled for creativity? yes, because we teach our kids to memorize answers for standardized tests, instead of actually teaching the children so they truelly understand the material. like i said, we aren't as bad as japan at this, but it's still pretty pathetic anyone can parrot out an answer, squawk for a cracker, etc -------------------- |
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May 1 2009, 11:49 PM
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![]() Do they ignore parts of reality? Group: Moderators Posts: 2,935 Joined: 23-February 06 From: South Overton!!! Member No.: 46 |
Our biggest weakness is getting children to think critically.
-------------------- A psychotic world we live in. The madmen are in power. How long have we known this? Faced this? And--how many of us do know it? Perhaps if you know you are insane then you are not insane. Or you are becoming sane, finally. Waking up. I suppose only a few are aware of all this. Isolated persons here and there. But the broad masses... what do they think? All these hundreds of thousands in this city, here. Do they imagine that they live in a sane world? Or do they guess, glimpse, the truth...?
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