Impala/Oasis BitchFest 2009, Someone call the waahbulance! Options

[Oasis]

Lance, can you please change Will's screen name to Testmonkey. It would make things a lot less confusing.

OK. But change impala's to dumbfuck, so I never again confuse him for an intelligent human being

On a serious note, I don't recall Cathryn ever liking foreign cars. She just liked hybrids that would save her money on gas that she can put toward other things that aren't called hygiene products.

[impala454]

I know exactly what the ignorant dipshit meant.

Apparently not. I think you read a little too far into it bud. So your rant and subsequent insults were a little unfounded really.

[Mommy]

Apparently not. I think you read a little too far into it bud. So your rant and subsequent insults were a little unfounded really.

Will likes to type. Don't take it personal. It's like those people that like the sound of their own voice, except this is with typing on the internet.

[Oasis]

Apparently not. I think you read a little too far into it bud. So your rant and subsequent insults were a little unfounded really.

I asked for an explanation, you didn't give one. Next time try giving an explanation when asked

[Mommy]

Because, you know, him giving an explanation is going to change everything. Besides, you said "I know exactly what the ignorant dipshit meant." I guess he didn't really need to give an explanation then, did he? Seems to me that you were/are just trying to entice an argument.

[Oasis]

Because, you know, him giving an explanation is going to change everything. Besides, you said "I know exactly what the ignorant dipshit meant." I guess he didn't really need to give an explanation then, did he? Seems to me that you were/are just trying to entice an argument.

My assumption was based on the fact that every single time someone insults America, and American company, or something negative involving politics he gets his panties in a bunch and starts whining like a retarded schoolgirl

[Spectatrix]

I agree with Will (yes, I said it). He may be a dumbfuck about a lot of things, but he's right that foreign cars are largely superior to American ones. Ford is decent, but GM and Chrysler suck. Yes, part of their failure is due to the UAW, but their vehicle quality also leaves a lot to be desired.

[impala454]

I asked for an explanation, you didn't give one. Next time try giving an explanation when asked

I said it wasn't worth explaining, because it wasn't.

[impala454]

their vehicle quality also leaves a lot to be desired.

How do you arrive at this conclusion?

And no the UAW is not just a "part" of the failure, it's the entire failure. If you look at the companies side by side, it's the only difference. Sales, marketing, product development, every other part of the companies is identical except for the UAW bullshit.

So IMHO you all need to dispense w/the Cathrynisms. (i.e. just for Will, the "most scientist say that _____________" bullshit)

[Spectatrix]

How do you arrive at this conclusion?

How about this, for starters: JD Power & Associates 2008 Initial Quality Study

Let's look at the cars.



Porsche - German
Infiniti - Japanese
Lexus - Japanese
Mercedes-Benz - German
Toyota -Japanese
Mercury - US (Ford)
Honda - Japanese
Ford - US
Jaguar - British
Audi - German
Cadillac - US (GM)
Chevrolet - US (GM)
Hyundai - Korean
Pontiac - US (GM)
Lincoln - US (Ford)
Buick - US (GM)

Nah, it's not a comprehensive assessment of quality, but the top 10 is dominated by Japanese and German automakers, with a couple of appearances by Ford. It's not until #11 that you get to GM.

[THECHICKEN]

lol @ people arguing american being as good as foreign quality

[impala454]

Are you friggin kidding me Christine? Come on you're an engineer, why don't you quantify the data you posted and think about it. That number given is problems per 100 vehicles in the first 90 days. So Jaguar scored a 1.12 problems per vehicle, whereas Honda scored a 1.10. Gimme a break. Does this mean you're going to have 0.02 more problems with a Jag on average, so you should buy a Honda instead?

It certainly doesn't help qualify the unfounded, generalized Cathryn-like (see I explained it again Will) statements Will was making like "Better gas mileage, better build quality, and last 1.5x as long as American garbage", or your comment that "Ford is decent, but GM and Chrysler suck". When you say that it's your view of the company & the bailouts clouding your judgement. It has nothing to do with vehicle quality. Hell, look at the other findings in that report, the domestic trucks swept their categories altogether. And the absolute maximum difference between first and last is 0.8. Not even a whole number. So if you buy a Jeep instead of a Porcshe, there's a good chance there might be two problems instead of one...

These statements remind me of a buddy of mine in college who was a huge Metallica fan. He loved every single song, had every CD, had autographs, posters, etc. Then when the napster debacle happened, he decided he hated them. he started talking about how bad their music sucked. The exact same songs. Fade to Black didn't suddenly change. Yeah ok he doesn't like the band anymore, that's fine. But the CD sitting on his shelf didn't change. Just like nothing has changed on the assembly line with any of these companies. It's the business end (pun intended) that's having issues. And if you sit back and take notice, the business end of pretty much every automaker is having major problems right now. It's simply a problem amplified in GM & Chrysler due to their out of control operating costs due to the UAW. If Obama really wanted to bail them out he'd give them a way to get rid of that shit. But since he's a socialist prick, labor unions are right up his alley.

[Oasis]

Yet again, Charles will just believe whatever the hell he wants because he's an idiot. Nevermind what scientists, researchers, or anyone says, he just writes and argues for whatever his pea brain tells him to

[Oasis]

It certainly doesn't help qualify the unfounded, generalized Cathryn-like (see I explained it again Will) statements Will was making like "Better gas mileage, better build quality, and last 1.5x as long as American garbage", or your comment that "Ford is decent, but GM and Chrysler suck". When you say that it's your view of the company & the bailouts clouding your judgement. It has nothing to do with vehicle quality. Hell, look at the other findings in that report, the domestic trucks swept their categories altogether. And the absolute maximum difference between first and last is 0.8. Not even a whole number. So if you buy a Jeep instead of a Porcshe, there's a good chance there might be two problems instead of one...

Jesus Christ Charles, do you even read what people write? I don't dislike GM because of the bailout issue, I dislike them because every single Chevrolet I've owned was a piece of shit. Most of my friends who drive GM products (cars and trucks) say this one will be their last as well. And it has EVERYTHING to do with vehicle quality, or more specifically lack thereof.

I know you drive a GMC truck, and due to your inability to ever change your opinion about anything ever because you're a closed minded dimwit, you'll probably run this argument in to the ground. If you want to continue to drive inferior automobiles, that's your problem, not mine.

[THECHICKEN]

The only thing that comes from chevy i like is the vette...

rest is crap