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[THECHICKEN]

9/10

I guess your nipples can cut diamonds?

Only if im thinking of you

[nickluto]

a prison on domestic US Soil

Hah. Hahahaha. Hahahahahahah. This is awesome.


Take people who's prime objective is the killing of American civilians and destruction of our way of life, who would LOVE to harm the United States domestically, but only lack the financial and logistical capability to do so, and....bring...them...over here?

If it's between these primitive "humans" so called "basic human rights" (which I'm not sure they really even have, since the constitution only endows these inalienable rights to U.S. citizens) and the possible danger this might bring to our own citizens on our own soil, I'd pick to fuck the Hadji's over every single time.

This is a war people, we can't just throw the safety of our own people under the bus purely to satisfy other peoples views of what is "fair" to enemy combatants.

[nickluto]

If we tote that America is free and fair and bring that ideal to another country its a good thing. Taking people from that country and holding them without the ideals we are showing that country is shitty. About 60 of the 500 that have been released have returned to fight. In America our parole system has a much higher repeat rate than that.

I think it's more about removing them from the theater of battle so that they cannot be reabsorbed into the guerrilla factions that we are still fighting today. Remember when insurgents attacked a prison and freed about 350 prisoners a couple of months ago? I think this is the reason we cannot incarcerate them locally. It would make all prisons prime targets for insurgents looking to reinforce their numbers. I would much rather "deny rights" to these people than endanger the lives of our military many times more than they already are.

The war would be much more drawn out if we kept arresting and imprisoning the same population of people six or 7 times.

[chook]

I think it's more about removing them from the theater of battle so that they cannot be reabsorbed into the guerrilla factions that we are still fighting today. Remember when insurgents attacked a prison and freed about 350 prisoners a couple of months ago? I think this is the reason we cannot incarcerate them locally. It would make all prisons prime targets for insurgents looking to reinforce their numbers. I would much rather "deny rights" to these people than endanger the lives of our military many times more than they already are.

The war would be much more drawn out if we kept arresting and imprisoning the same population of people six or 7 times.

Logically, you have given the best reason for keeping them in prison. I think that the ones we can prove through a system of court that they were battling the troops should be kept in Gitmo. Everyone else who cannot be proven be released, but have them marked through tattoes or chipping them. Then lock them up if they are found out to be fighting later.

I just can't stand the idea of someone being taken away from their country and be innocent. I mean, ones that are obviously shooting at Americans or have evidence against them, sure lock them up. Just show the world that we are fair and justice is still here.

Seth come over, I need you to cut polish some rocks

[THECHICKEN]

have them marked through tattoes or chipping them.

Because thats american... chipping them like dogs lol

[chook]

Because thats american... chipping them like dogs lol

What is better? Having a chip and being in your own country or being in Gitmo?

[THECHICKEN]

What is better? Having a chip and being in your own country or being in Gitmo?

So we chip them (which is illegal in its self) then send them back for them to de-chip, and rejoin fight...

or hold them as enemy combatants which we do in every war we have fought...

[nickluto]

I'm having a hard time believing that some of you honestly want trials for Guantanamo inmates. I don't believe that anyone can be that naive to think that this is possible in a wartime environment...Think about it...How do you logistically think that would work?

They don't exactly have all of the time in a war zone to collect evidence, eyewitness testimony, build a case against the accused, etc that is required to have a "fair trial". This would also cost billions of unnecessary dollars. I like the "you fire gun at me, you're guilty" approach much better. Cost effective, efficient, and accurate. It's not like these people are being held for loitering in front of a convenience store or smoking pot...

The trials will come at the same time they come in any other American conflict...when the fighting stops and such luxuries can be afforded.

[FORSAKENR320]

i'd rather send them home.


all of them







by catapult

[chook]

I'm having a hard time believing that some of you honestly want trials for Guantanamo inmates. I don't believe that anyone can be that naive to think that this is possible in a wartime environment...Think about it...How do you logistically think that would work?

They don't exactly have all of the time in a war zone to collect evidence, eyewitness testimony, build a case against the accused, etc that is required to have a "fair trial". This would also cost billions of unnecessary dollars. I like the "you fire gun at me, you're guilty" approach much better. Cost effective, efficient, and accurate. It's not like these people are being held for loitering in front of a convenience store or smoking pot...

The trials will come at the same time they come in any other American conflict...when the fighting stops and such luxuries can be afforded.

Yes they need Trials. Some of these guys were picked up just sitting around, or on someone's suspicion. Those that were caught shooting guns should obviously be kept in prison. Military Tribunals are much easier to prove guilt than in the civilian system.

I am suprised that noone has made an analogy to Red Dawn.

[THECHICKEN]

Yes they need Trials. Some of these guys were picked up just sitting around, or on someone's suspicion. Those that were caught shooting guns should obviously be kept in prison. Military Tribunals are much easier to prove guilt than in the civilian system.

I am suprised that noone has made an analogy to Red Dawn.

So are you saying they need CIVILIAN trials?

[FORSAKENR320]

Yes they need Trials. Some of these guys were picked up just sitting around, or on someone's suspicion. Those that were caught shooting guns should obviously be kept in prison. Military Tribunals are much easier to prove guilt than in the civilian system.

I am suprised that noone has made an analogy to Red Dawn.

[nickluto]

So are you saying they need CIVILIAN trials?

I think he was saying that military tribunals are easier to get convictions for the accused because I was talking about what a clusterfuck it would be to attempt to get all of the stuff together for a fair trial.

[nickluto]

Yes they need Trials. Some of these guys were picked up just sitting around, or on someone's suspicion.

While I agree that some might be falsely imprisoned by the U.S. forces for these reasons, I seriously doubt this typical of people the kind of people that end up in Guantanamo Bay.

[FORSAKENR320]

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