both mccain and obama want a draft Options

[Mommy]

lol another "no one agrees with me, so this site sucks"

Your argument is based off the fact that women aren't capable (when they are), and there should be legislation "protecting" women... purely on a "chilvalry" reason. Its the exact same reasoning that made it so women in the past couldn't... vote, own property, enter into their own contracts without ther HUSBAND's consent, be anything proffessional, and generally do ANYTHING but raise the children and be pretty. I am all about being a gentleman, but im not going to legislate that women are less capable based off me wanting to be a gentleman.

the more people that leave this site, the more it sucks. hell, i may have hated cat but at least she stuck to something.

[Mommy]

Best thing you said all week

i cant tell if thats sarcasm

[Mommy]

Wow. Just wow.

This thread has gotten a bit too loopy for my tastes. I'm out.

if by loopy you mean a direct statement with too many "ifs" then, yes, yes it is. you say women should be drafted then you say IF their husband isnt going or IF they dont have kids or only If they can work a meaningless desk job. you are just as hypocritical as you think i am.

[Spectatrix]

IF one spouse (either gender) is already in the military AND they have dependent children, then the other spouse shouldn't be drafted.
IF a woman in the military (or being drafted) is pregnant, she should not be on active combat duty. The same goes for any other condition, for either gender, that impairs their physical abilities to the point where they can't perform their duties properly.
IF a person is fit for combat (either gender), they can be drafted into a combat role. If they're better suited elsewhere (due to specialized education, for instance), then they probably should be in a specialized role rather than combat.
IF a person is unfit for combat (either gender), then they should be assessed to see where they best fit.


In general, I do not have a problem with women who choose to be stay-at-home mothers. I also do not have a problem with men who choose to be stay-at-home fathers. One or the other may be appropriate given the family's specific circumstances. But I do believe that, as a societal generality, we are moving towards an environment where women are expected to have all of the same rights and responsibilities as men. No, not every woman can perform the same tasks that most men can, or vice versa, but I believe that if we give women equal opportunity in the workplace, then they should have equal responsibility to serve their country in a time of need, to the best of their ability, even if their roles are generally different from those of men.

[Psykopath]

IF one spouse (either gender) is already in the military AND they have dependent children, then the other spouse shouldn't be drafted.
IF a woman in the military (or being drafted) is pregnant, she should not be on active combat duty. The same goes for any other condition, for either gender, that impairs their physical abilities to the point where they can't perform their duties properly.
IF a person is fit for combat (either gender), they can be drafted into a combat role. If they're better suited elsewhere (due to specialized education, for instance), then they probably should be in a specialized role rather than combat.
IF a person is unfit for combat (either gender), then they should be assessed to see where they best fit.


In general, I do not have a problem with women who choose to be stay-at-home mothers. I also do not have a problem with men who choose to be stay-at-home fathers. One or the other may be appropriate given the family's specific circumstances. But I do believe that, as a societal generality, we are moving towards an environment where women are expected to have all of the same rights and responsibilities as men. No, not every woman can perform the same tasks that most men can, or vice versa, but I believe that if we give women equal opportunity in the workplace, then they should have equal responsibility to serve their country in a time of need, to the best of their ability, even if their roles are generally different from those of men.

Right on, 100%!

[Inferia]

In general, I do not have a problem with women who choose to be stay-at-home mothers. I also do not have a problem with men who choose to be stay-at-home fathers. One or the other may be appropriate given the family's specific circumstances.

This is slightly off topic, but I've been thinking about stay-at-home mothers or fathers depending on the situation. Isn't it kind of a risky situation for anyone to be in? By anyone I mean the mother, father and the kids to be in? I don't really have a problem with what people decide to do with their lives, but this day and age, especially with divorce rate being so high, I feel like it is pretty big risk to take for anymore. If divorce doesn't strike you as a possibility (I hope it does), there are natural and unnatural deaths. Then whoever is alive is kind of screwed, the working mother or father may not be able to support their kids since they have lost their spouse. The stay-at-home mother or father may not be able to support the family either because of lack of income and job experience. The kids may have to worry about things they shouldn't have to worry about. Anyway, I guess I've been thinking about this for awhile now, I can't think of very many alternative arguments.

[Spectatrix]

For divorce, there's alimony. For death, the working spouse should have life insurance. In either case, I do think it's a risky proposition to be out of the job market completely for several years. I would hope that most stay-at-home parents do some kind of freelance, at-home, or part-time work.

[Inferia]

For divorce, there's alimony. For death, the working spouse should have life insurance. In either case, I do think it's a risky proposition to be out of the job market completely for several years. I would hope that most stay-at-home parents do some kind of freelance, at-home, or part-time work.

For the people who are getting divorces, then wouldn't it mean that if you don't make enough to pay alimony, then you're trapped in your situation? (I'm speaking for the working half who wishes for a divorce).

[Spectatrix]

Potentially, yes, though alimony payments are partially based on your income.

[Seeker]

will this thread ever die, boooooring

[Inferia]

Potentially, yes, though alimony payments are partially based on your income.

Even so, if between two people they make $28,000 a year, split between two, that's not a whole lot to live on. I guess there's always welfare.

[Mommy]

Well, I'm going to stop arguing about it because I doubt a female draft will happen in my lifetime. Plus, my children will know better than to vote for a sleezy politician who wants to enact that.

[Inferia]

I doubt a female draft will happen in my lifetime. Plus, my children will know better than to vote for a sleezy politician who wants to enact that.

Oh famous last words

[Mommy]

Yeah, I will probably have rebellious kids who vote for people like Obama. Kids.... sheesh... they grow up and try to not be their parents.

[Seeker]

your kid is going to grow up and vote for ME (when i'm running for president)

i already have my political slogan: duvall or nothing!