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post Oct 13 2008, 12:12 PM
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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08287/91958...d=elections.xml
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post Oct 13 2008, 12:37 PM
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Do you even read the articles you post?

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Even as the U.S. confronts two long wars, neither Sen. John McCain nor Sen. Barack Obama believes the country should take the politically perilous step of reviving the military draft.

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"Sen. McCain strongly believes that an all-volunteer force is preferable to a conscripted force," said Paul Lindsay, a spokesman for the campaign. "The tools available to recruiters have historically enabled the all-volunteer force to attract sufficient numbers of qualified recruits."

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Obama: "And I think that if women are registered for service -- not necessarily in combat roles, and I don't agree with the draft -- I think it will help to send a message to my two daughters that they've got obligations to this great country as well as boys do."


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post Oct 13 2008, 12:39 PM
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they wouldn't be debating that women should or should not have to be drafted if they both didn't really support a draft

with no plans for a future draft the "women being drafted debate" becomes moot... yet they are discussing if women should be drafted or not
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post Oct 13 2008, 12:52 PM
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I oppose a draft, yet I still support women being included in Selective Service. *shrugs*


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post Oct 13 2008, 01:06 PM
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I fully and completley support women having to register with the selective services and having a draft.

I can take a bullet just as well as some fat bitch can, so why should they get to live while I gave my life so they can get diabetes eating twinkies all day long?

Fuck that shit.


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post Oct 13 2008, 01:54 PM
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I'm a skinny bitch. Does that mean I'd be exempt?


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post Oct 13 2008, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2008, 02:54 PM) *
I'm a skinny bitch. Does that mean I'd be exempt?


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post Oct 13 2008, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2008, 02:54 PM) *
I'm a skinny bitch. Does that mean I'd be exempt?

I disagree. I don't think your skinny and not a bitch, just a bit odd.

NOW IN THAT TRENCH SOLDIER!


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post Oct 13 2008, 03:58 PM
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Honestly, if women were susceptible to being drafted, who would care for the children? One gender has to stay home and care for the young one, and no matter how G.I. Jane women attempt to be, very few have the physical attributes and emotional strength that men do....

Excluding the men on this site. They might as well be women.
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post Oct 13 2008, 04:23 PM
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1) They wouldn't draft both parents of a household.
2) Men would probably be preferred for combat roles, women for support roles. Logistics, supply chain, medics, etc.


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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2008, 05:23 PM) *
1) They wouldn't draft both parents of a household.
2) Men would probably be preferred for combat roles, women for support roles. Logistics, supply chain, medics, etc.


AGREED that was what i was about to say.


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post Oct 13 2008, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Oct 13 2008, 05:23 PM) *
1) They wouldn't draft both parents of a household.
2) Men would probably be preferred for combat roles, women for support roles. Logistics, supply chain, medics, etc.
Well, my husband is in a medical company in the Army. There are about 50 people in his company and only 10 of them are men. My husband is a lab tech. Out of those women, at least 15 of them are pregnant. They don't have to do physical training, and they get to stay inside most of the day. My husband, however, has nothing to do because they aren't currently deployed so some days he goes out to the shooting range, and the preggies don't go. Some days he works in the motorpool doing inventory on hospital equipment coming back from Iraq, and preggies don't do that either. So, basically, they sit there and look pretty. Most women in the Army do a piss poor job at their MOS. Most of them are whores who couldn't afford to go to college and join a sorority. Additionally, isn't the point of a draft to have people to FIGHT over there? Women aren't allowed in combat (for the reasons listed in my previous post). Are we really going to draft a couple MILLION women just for the purpose of training them up to be medics. That's pretty pointless. We have tons of women that are already in the medical profession. Joining the military to be a medical MOS during times of war should be voluntary on the part of women. I just live by the notion that women really aren't meant to be in war. Like I said before, men are better able to hide their emotions. Do we really want that many women running operations similar to that of World War 2 and Vietnam. If you know history well enough, the women pretty much took care of our country during WW2 while the men were overseas fighting, thus putting into overdrive the women's workforce. I see no benefit in drafting women as well.
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post Oct 13 2008, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (Mommy @ Oct 13 2008, 06:29 PM) *
Well, my husband is in a medical company in the Army. There are about 50 people in his company and only 10 of them are men. My husband is a lab tech. Out of those women, at least 15 of them are pregnant. They don't have to do physical training, and they get to stay inside most of the day. My husband, however, has nothing to do because they aren't currently deployed so some days he goes out to the shooting range, and the preggies don't go. Some days he works in the motorpool doing inventory on hospital equipment coming back from Iraq, and preggies don't do that either. So, basically, they sit there and look pretty. Most women in the Army do a piss poor job at their MOS. Most of them are whores who couldn't afford to go to college and join a sorority. Additionally, isn't the point of a draft to have people to FIGHT over there? Women aren't allowed in combat (for the reasons listed in my previous post). Are we really going to draft a couple MILLION women just for the purpose of training them up to be medics. That's pretty pointless. We have tons of women that are already in the medical profession. Joining the military to be a medical MOS during times of war should be voluntary on the part of women. I just live by the notion that women really aren't meant to be in war. Like I said before, men are better able to hide their emotions. Do we really want that many women running operations similar to that of World War 2 and Vietnam. If you know history well enough, the women pretty much took care of our country during WW2 while the men were overseas fighting, thus putting into overdrive the women's workforce. I see no benefit in drafting women as well.


Women want equal rights except when it comes to the messy shit, i.e.- the draft.

This is probably one of my most prickish stances, but either women get FULL EQUALITY (draft), no equality, or we eliminate the draft.

(Another reason why I don't want a women anywhere near the office of President, at least not until the draft is fully extended or eliminated all together...)


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post Oct 13 2008, 07:25 PM
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in general, women are pretty worthless at everything they do. (there are a few exceptions)

guys make better professional cooks. single parent households where the male is the parent raise kids with better grades.... etc etc etc.

alot of this is because they aren't EXPECTED to take responsibility for themselves through most their lives.

sure, women "took care of the country" during ww2, but what choice did they have? just goes to show that women are capable of being drafted, they just need to balls up for it and quit bitching. best thing that could happen to the majority of our worthless and ignorant baby factories would be if they had a good taste of some manuel labor, and stop recieving special treatment.

equal rights means equal responsibility.


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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Oct 13 2008, 08:23 PM) *
Women want equal rights except when it comes to the messy shit, i.e.- the draft.

This is probably one of my most prickish stances, but either women get FULL EQUALITY (draft), no equality, or we eliminate the draft.

(Another reason why I don't want a women anywhere near the office of President, at least not until the draft is fully extended or eliminated all together...)



DAMMIT! YOU BEAT ME TOO IT BECAUSE I HAD A BOND CALL! ARGH!


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