Maybe they'll drive their electric Prius' to the Al Gore Coal-Powered plant Protests! Options

[Dogmeat]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/09/30...sion/index.html

I know! We'll make out hybrids fully electric! That'll show those oil companies AND save the world! Ha HAAA!

Then, we can drive them to the Al Gore Coal-Fired Powerplant protests, completley oblivious to the fact that the filthiest fuel on the planet powered our "green cars" to get to the protest!

We're SAVING THE WORLD!!!!! WooOOoOOoooOOOOOOOhoOoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[chook]

they use solar panels man.












In foggy foggy San Francisco!

[THECHICKEN]

they use solar panels man.












In foggy foggy San Francisco!

Fog powered

[Inferia]

The are several reasons why people are looking at electric cars as opposed to traditional gas-powered cars. Oil is a non-renewable resources, once you've used it up it's gone. In a car the conversion from oil to useful form of energy, from what I've heard, is roughly around 30%-ish. Electricity on the other hand can come from more than one source other than drilling, many of which that are being explored are from renewable resources such as wind, solar, nuclear, etc. California also has a "sell to the grid" system, I'm not sure of the name of it, but for those who produce their own power from renewable resources, you can sell it back to the grid if you don't use all of your electricity. And for sunny california that may be a lot of "extra" energy. Also storage of electricity at one large power plant may be more efficient than converting oil to energy for each and every single car.

[chook]

Been to San Francisco? The only places where it is economically viable for solar power is the Mojave and Sonoran Deserts.

[Dogmeat]

The are several reasons why people are looking at electric cars as opposed to traditional gas-powered cars. Oil is a non-renewable resources, once you've used it up it's gone. In a car the conversion from oil to useful form of energy, from what I've heard, is roughly around 30%-ish. Electricity on the other hand can come from more than one source other than drilling, many of which that are being explored are from renewable resources such as wind, solar, nuclear, etc. California also has a "sell to the grid" system, I'm not sure of the name of it, but for those who produce their own power from renewable resources, you can sell it back to the grid if you don't use all of your electricity. And for sunny california that may be a lot of "extra" energy. Also storage of electricity at one large power plant may be more efficient than converting oil to energy for each and every single car.

Clueless.

[Spectatrix]

How is she clueless? It's far easier to overhaul the electricity generation infrastructure than it is to overhaul millions of cars. That's not to say that electric cars are the ultimate solution, but it isn't some ridiculous proposition.

[chook]

How is she clueless? It's far easier to overhaul the electricity generation infrastructure than it is to overhaul millions of cars. That's not to say that electric cars are the ultimate solution, but it isn't some ridiculous proposition.

I would disagree. With the vehicles you can do over time. The electricity generation would take a huge huge push, cause it would probably be done in bigger segments.

[Dogmeat]

How is she clueless? It's far easier to overhaul the electricity generation infrastructure than it is to overhaul millions of cars. That's not to say that electric cars are the ultimate solution, but it isn't some ridiculous proposition.

Find me the electricity to power the electric cars. This is that inconvienient truth everybody seems to ignore

[Inferia]

Find me the electricity to power the electric cars. This is that inconvienient truth everybody seems to ignore

I think they're looking for it, namely in areas of solar, wind, hydro, nuclear, clean coal. I don't think everybody ignores, just the ones who are not informed

[Dogmeat]

I think they're looking for it, namely in areas of solar, wind, hydro, nuclear, clean coal. I don't think everybody ignores, just the ones who are not informed

You are not going to power 250,000,000 vehicles on wind and solar energy. Won't happen. I'd believe maybe 1/10th of the entire US vehicle fleet, were everything electric, could be powered by those sources even if the devices in use were %100 effecient.

[Inferia]

You are not going to power 250,000,000 vehicles on wind and solar energy. Won't happen. I'd believe maybe 1/10th of the entire US vehicle fleet, were everything electric, could be powered by those sources even if the devices in use were %100 effecient.

So what do you suggest then? What is a better way to power these vehicles and ensure energy independence? US has enough oil for 60 million car for 60 years, that's about 14 years for 250 million cars.

[Dogmeat]

So what do you suggest then? What is a better way to power these vehicles and ensure energy independence? US has enough oil for 60 million car for 60 years, that's about 14 years for 250 million cars.

Get over the stupidity and start building more nuclear power plants to generate electricity.
Get over the stupidity and start building cars that run on natural gas.
Get over the stupidity and start building space ships to get us all off this rock, cuz Jesus ain't comin.

[Inferia]

Get over the stupidity and start building more nuclear power plants to generate electricity.
Get over the stupidity and start building cars that run on natural gas.
Get over the stupidity and start building space ships to get us all off this rock, cuz Jesus ain't comin.

Brilliant, problem solved!

In all seriousness, people are looking into nuclear power, but we still need to look into nuclear waste management. What we currently do, storing them in barrels for years to come may not be the best of idea if we are to have hundreds of nuclear power plants across the country. I haven't heard much about cars running on natural gas, but the only thing I can think of when it comes to natural gas is that they're fairly "delicate" material, as in they may explode at high pressure. Then again they use them on trucks, I'm not really sure of the safety aspects of it. As for getting off this rock, I think looking for alternative fuel on this planet is a little easier, but what do I know, they found water on Mars.

[chook]

Lots of fleet vehicles use natural gas.
http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-sedan/civic-gx.aspx