WHAT IN THE FUCK HAPPENED TO GAS PRICES Options

[Oasis]

I have no problem with price gouging. Supply and demand. And the demand wouldn't be so high if idiot Americans wouldn't flock to gas stations like sheep trying to hoard gasoline because they're so concerned about saving an extra three dollars

My anger has nothing to do with the fact that I had to wait 15 minutes sitting at a gas station waiting for my friend to buy a 12 pack of beer and my burger got cold

[Mommy]

You all aren't bitching about it because it's not happening to you. Plain and simple. We had to get an apartment 47 miles from his work again because there is NOTHING closer. Fort Stewart main post is at the back end of a huge military reservation. The closest place is Hinesville which is a trailer park community. Next up is Richmond Hill which has no apartment communities. Rental houses begin at $1000 a month, not including bills. Next closest is Savannah which because of all the stop lights would take well over an hour to get to Fort Stewart. Finally, we have Port Wentworth, which is directly off I-95 so it's quick access to get to work... except that it's so far. Takes about 50 minutes to get to post though. Oh and did I mention that there is no military housing currently available, and the waiting list is somewhere between a year and two. So yeah, it's awesome having to pay $68 to fill up a car when we are forced to live so far.

Funny thing is, Shane's official military orders said (I'm paraphrasing) "Because of lack of on-post housing, soldiers and their families that are relocating to Fort Stewart can expect to live a considerable distance from post and expect to pay high rent and bills." Problem with that is BAH (a set amount they give soldiers each month to pay for off-post housing costs and is based off the area you live in) is considerably lower than it was at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio, but rent is higher here AND we HAVE to commute. Before, we chose to live all the way in San Marcos because I was going to school.

So yeah, none of you are bitching (yet) because gas prices, while they are high, didn't skyrocket even more in a matter of hours like they did here.

[dauss]

I guess that was my point all along.... that price gouging was going on

You guess? Then what was this shit?

Seriously, anyone who votes for Obama can kiss our economy goodbye.

I know the situation in the gulf with the oil refineries, but like I said, it's always a trickle effect. It takes time for the prices to spike.10 cents one day, 5 cents the next. Not over a dollar in a day in some places.

Again, that would be due to price gouging. From what you have noticed, there is a trickle effect, but this is a special situation. There hasn't been a devastating hurricane in 3 years.
The price of crude goes up, refineries buy the oil which has to be shipped to them from the Middle East, then the oil is refined and sold to the wholesalers, and so on and so forth. That is the trend that you have noticed. Yes there is lag time due to all the shipping times, processing times, more shipping times, and as it moves on down to the consumer, the increased crude oil prices are passed along at each step.

I've already explained to you what has happened, and you still do not comprehend. I'll explain it further. Here's what's happening.

Refineries: We're shutting down production, there's no more gasoline from us anymore until we assess the damage after the hurricane passes through.
Wholesalers: Fuck me, *raise prices*

You notice how that step of buying crude oil and have it shipped across the mother fucking Atlantic and the time to refine the crude oil into gasoline was skipped? Was there lag time, there was, but fractionally shorter.

Florida had gas prices of $3.89 when we drove through there 2 weeks ago. Now it's $6, and I guarantee that all happened midday. The news stations here said the change in price happened overnight. BULLSHIT. My husband put some gas in yesterday morning, and he got it at $3.79/gal. He was in a hurry to get to work, though, so he didn't fill up. He checked prices at 4:00 in the afternoon as he drove home, and it was 20 cents higher. An hour later it was 60 cents higher than that.

No...it's $6 wherever that price gouging gas station is. Every single gas station in Florida isn't selling gasoline at $6/gallon. Just reading a few news articles from Florida local news, many stations are raising prices, but are at around $3.80 in some areas, which means other areas are lower.(http://www.whsv.com/news/headlines/28297219.html)

And you say some states are worse and then you post a picture of $4.50 in Kentucky... umm that's the same price it is here.

I didn't write a letter to ABC News "Hey, I want you to write a new article about gasoline price gouging, and please don't post pictures of prices where Jessica has been, because then it would make it look like I have a weaker argument on Techsans, kthxbye."

Here's a yes or no question for you.
Is $4.50 more than $4.49?

Yea.....fuck you.

[chook]

I payed 3.33 today for gas. Of course most our stuff comes from Yuma.

This is where we get our imported oil from
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petrole...ent/import.html

I was pretty Amazed that we get more oil from Libya than Russia.

[Mommy]

You guess? Then what was this shit?

... he doesn't want off-shore drilling, which while this hurricane would have shut down those drilling rigs, a hell of a lot more circumstances effect our prices now because we get our oil from the Middle East. Not a hard concept to comprehend, but you seem to be having trouble with just about everything I am saying.

Again, that would be due to price gouging. From what you have noticed, there is a trickle effect, but this is a special situation. There hasn't been a devastating hurricane in 3 years.
The price of crude goes up, refineries buy the oil which has to be shipped to them from the Middle East, then the oil is refined and sold to the wholesalers, and so on and so forth. That is the trend that you have noticed. Yes there is lag time due to all the shipping times, processing times, more shipping times, and as it moves on down to the consumer, the increased crude oil prices are passed along at each step.

I don't think you get what I'm saying. If the sudden HUGE spike in the gas was a DIRECT result from the hurricane then 1) It would have happened ALL OVER the U.S., not just in 5 or 6 states. (oh and by the way, gas hoarding is going on all over the nation.) 2) Gas would have gone up when new gas was DELIVERED to gas stations, not at periodic times during the day and by increments of $.20 at a time., every few hours.

I've already explained to you what has happened, and you still do not comprehend. I'll explain it further. Here's what's happening.

No... it's just that you refuse to read what I'm saying beyond me bitching that prices are high

You notice how that step of buying crude oil and have it shipped across the mother fucking Atlantic and the time to refine the crude oil into gasoline was skipped? Was there lag time, there was, but fractionally shorter.



No...it's $6 wherever that price gouging gas station is. Every single gas station in Florida isn't selling gasoline at $6/gallon. Just reading a few news articles from Florida local news, many stations are raising prices, but are at around $3.80 in some areas, which means other areas are lower.(http://www.whsv.com/news/headlines/28297219.html)


I didn't write a letter to ABC News "Hey, I want you to write a new article about gasoline price gouging, and please don't post pictures of prices where Jessica has been, because then it would make it look like I have a weaker argument on Techsans, kthxbye."

Here's a yes or no question for you.
Is $4.50 more than $4.49?

Yea.....fuck you.

News organizations are reporting that prices have gone exceptionally higher in the southeast. We have looked at a 50 mile strip here and it's all the same. And yes, we did drive a great distance yesterday. You can pull out a map and look at Hinesville, Pooler, Rincon, Port Wentworth, Tybee Island, Savannah, Richmond Hill.... those are all places we drove through yesterday while doing stuff and prices were on the rise in all those places.

As for your picture, I didn't right click or hover over it to see if it was one pic. For all I knew, you posted those pics consecutively. It doesn't matter, though. One cent doesn't make a difference. There were places that had it that price... and higher *shock*. You just said places had it more expensive than here so i shouldn't bitch. Yeah, we didn't have $6 gas here, but we did have prices even with a portion of that pic.

Quit trying to educate me on the fucking oil and gas industry because frankly, I feel we are saying the same thing at some times, but you keep arguing that we aren't and I already know everything you are saying. I happen to read quite a bit of news.


And if a part of this doesn't make sense, it's because I am currently playing with my son at the same time so I'm a tad distracted. Words could be missing, but the general idea of what I want to say is there.

[woody]

sue em

http://www.wjbf.com/midatlantic/jbf/news_i...09-12-0016.html

[Mommy]

thank god

[FORSAKENR320]

[James]

sue em

http://www.wjbf.com/midatlantic/jbf/news_i...09-12-0016.html

So much for capitalism.

[THECHICKEN]

So much for capitalism.

Yeah so much for the bad side of capatilism (gouging on a product people NEED) being outlawed like it has been for a long ass time now. Raising prices on tickle me elmos is ok because people don't need it to live... can't say that about gas

[James]

Yeah so much for the bad side of capatilism (gouging on a product people NEED) being outlawed like it has been for a long ass time now. Raising prices on tickle me elmos is ok because people don't need it to live... can't say that about gas

Just like everything else in life, you can't have the good without the bad or the good isn't so good. If you need it badly enough, then you can pay for it. If not, then you can wait until prices come down a bit. The hurricane has been on track to hit the gulf for over a week now. People should prepare and fill their tanks sooner than the day before it hits.

[Dogmeat]

I had a very long conversation today with several engineers and consultants from a very very very large oil company today ...

Let's just say that after talking with them, I've come to understand why this "speculation" thing is bullshit, and that according to some very very smart people we're already at peak oil.

EEK!

[THECHICKEN]

Just like everything else in life, you can't have the good without the bad or the good isn't so good. If you need it badly enough, then you can pay for it. If not, then you can wait until prices come down a bit. The hurricane has been on track to hit the gulf for over a week now. People should prepare and fill their tanks sooner than the day before it hits.

Actually yes you CAN have the good without the bad... hence the law

[dauss]

... he doesn't want off-shore drilling, which while this hurricane would have shut down those drilling rigs, a hell of a lot more circumstances effect our prices now because we get our oil from the Middle East.

So, lets pretend that the US had all the offshore drilling that McCain wants, and hurricane Ike did not affect any drilling rigs(but still forced refineries to shut down). What are we going to do with all that oil when refineries can't process it?

[Dogmeat]

So, lets pretend that the US had all the offshore drilling that McCain wants, and hurricane Ike did not affect any drilling rigs(but still forced refineries to shut down). What are we going to do with all that oil when refineries can't process it?

Turn it into petroleum-based personal lubricant ...