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impala454
post Aug 1 2008, 10:56 PM
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The polls say most Americans support drilling offshore, so that's what Obama will say. Guess I can see why he does it but I'd rather stick to my guns than be a wishy-washy flip flopper.
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post Aug 1 2008, 10:58 PM
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Why so serious?


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QUOTE (Mommy @ Aug 1 2008, 11:40 PM) *
whatever... man has to appeal to everyone so he is trying to ride the middle of the road now even though he is a leftist nut

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So, he's the only politician that tries to ride the fence during an election year?

haha, wow.


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post Aug 1 2008, 10:58 PM
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I don't think reluctantly agreeing to a compromise really constitutes flip-flopping...


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post Aug 2 2008, 03:21 AM
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QUOTE (Psykopath @ Aug 1 2008, 10:58 PM) *
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So, he's the only politician that tries to ride the fence during an election year?

haha, wow.


No, because of what a whore he is, it's trying to ride like 4 or 5 fences and he's making a bunch of fucking weird ass noises while he's doing it too.


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post Aug 2 2008, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (Spectatrix @ Aug 1 2008, 11:58 PM) *
I don't think reluctantly agreeing to a compromise really constitutes flip-flopping...

I think the source of the compromise is what constitutes flip-flopping. I.e. no way in hell he'd have "compromised" if it wasn't the popular thing to do.
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The Fanatic
post Aug 2 2008, 10:31 AM
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All politicians flip flop. Both of these bastards are talking out their asses, pandering to the undecided moderate voters, but nothing will change. As soon as one of them is elected it will be business as usual in Washington D.C.

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post Aug 2 2008, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Aug 2 2008, 10:31 AM) *
All politicians flip flop. Both of these bastards are talking out their asses, pandering to the undecided moderate voters, but nothing will change. As soon as one of them is elected it will be business as usual in Washington D.C.


...Except if Obama gets elected ... if you actually work for a living you will be forced into giving up your money so that illegal immigrants can get free pain pills smile.gif


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post Aug 2 2008, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Aug 2 2008, 11:31 AM) *
All politicians flip flop. Both of these bastards are talking out their asses, pandering to the undecided moderate voters, but nothing will change. As soon as one of them is elected it will be business as usual in Washington D.C.

It doesn't make it right. And I don't even think it necessarily helps get them votes, because yes they grab some votes from some of the undecideds, but they also lose votes from those who don't like the flip flopping and agreed with them before they flip flopped.

And by "both of these bastards" I assume you're referring to obama and mccain. to put mccain even in the same sentence as obama in regards to flip flopping on issues, you've got to be smokin crack.
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post Aug 2 2008, 01:34 PM
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McCain hasn't flip flopped too much yet IMO
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post Aug 2 2008, 02:02 PM
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All politicians are full of lies and "flip flops"

To think otherwise is foolish


To name a few:

McCain was against offshore drilling in 2000 but not anymore

McCain was also originally against the Bush tax cuts

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post Aug 2 2008, 02:03 PM
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Not saying he doesn't, but the degree of his flops pale in comparison to that of Obama's
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post Aug 2 2008, 02:04 PM
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I think they are equally full of shit *shrugs*


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post Aug 2 2008, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE (The Fanatic @ Aug 2 2008, 02:04 PM) *
I think they are equally full of shit *shrugs*

cause all men are created equal, or sweet and low in some places.


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post Aug 2 2008, 06:32 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080802/ap_on_...dential_debates

Oh, Obama, what a stupid fucker you are
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post Aug 2 2008, 08:55 PM
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All I know is, I'm fucked in this election either way, it's just that if I'm voting for McCain I'm voting for my own money, which is about the only thing I have left in this election I won't lose.


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